I'm gonna check out some Wagner tomorrow night, Die Walküre, the second opera in his Ring Cycle. The critics unanimously agree that it's a stellar production, too! I'm fuckin' psyched!! :hotjump:
Valkyrie Power!
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that's cool, i took a history class that had a segment on the Ring of the Nibelungen. i don't remember much of it, though...
Holy shit was that ever a great show! It had everything, incestuous loooovin', divine marital quarrels, sexy war goddesses... The third act started with the stage littered with corpses in makeshift bodybags being neatly piled up by smirking Valkyries, and it didn't even have anything to do with the plot!!
The orchestra was decent (maybe a little thin for Wagner, but decent nonetheless), most of the singers were awesome, specially Siegmund and Wotan's wife Fricka, they slayed. Wotan was a little weak, but it is a notoriously difficult role to sing, so it's okay. And Brünnhilde's ass was WAY to big for a Valkyrie, and her war cry was less than convincing. But besides that: Awesome. And I shouldn't complain about the singers, 'cause anyone who can be heard, without amplification, over a hundred+ instruments is okay in my book.
Wagner = the grandpa of metal? Most assuredly.
The orchestra was decent (maybe a little thin for Wagner, but decent nonetheless), most of the singers were awesome, specially Siegmund and Wotan's wife Fricka, they slayed. Wotan was a little weak, but it is a notoriously difficult role to sing, so it's okay. And Brünnhilde's ass was WAY to big for a Valkyrie, and her war cry was less than convincing. But besides that: Awesome. And I shouldn't complain about the singers, 'cause anyone who can be heard, without amplification, over a hundred+ instruments is okay in my book.
Wagner = the grandpa of metal? Most assuredly.
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that sounds really cool. i havent been to an opera since Aida...i get frustrated not being able to understand what's going on unless i've done a lot of reading beforehand.
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haha! I had to right-click on that to understand, but haha anyway.
xfer I know what you mean about not understanding/having to read up. There were surtitles during the show but just getting an idea of who's related to whom, who's fathered who with which god/mortal/wälse can get confusing. Which is why I watched it a couple of weeks beforehand with my dad, just to get the jist of it all.
And by the way, what kind of history class was it that covered the Ring?
xfer I know what you mean about not understanding/having to read up. There were surtitles during the show but just getting an idea of who's related to whom, who's fathered who with which god/mortal/wälse can get confusing. Which is why I watched it a couple of weeks beforehand with my dad, just to get the jist of it all.
And by the way, what kind of history class was it that covered the Ring?
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Well yeah, but considering the amount of musicians/singers and the sheer scale of the set (made by Atom Egoyan), it's a very reasonable price... And when you think that operas like Siegfried, for example, or Tristan und Isolde, can go dozens of years without being produced simply because there isn't a singer in the world who can handle the lead, I mean shit, that's somethin' innit?
What pisses ME off is that the very day tickets go on sale, all the best ones (read three quarters of the seats) are already taken by people belonging to Wagnerite associations... fuckin' rich elitist socialite bastards!
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it was an honors 4-credit world history seminar in college taught by this guy Heinemann, who was an expert on Hitler/German history. the first half of the semester, everyone was like "whoa this guy is a total Nazi sympathizer", sort of like Dr. Shoe from Nabokov's "Conversation Piece 1945", and talked a lot about the causes of WWII and how oppressed the Germans were after WWI etc, but i think he was a really good teacher; by the end of the class i had the impression that he had been giving us a very objective view and letting us draw our own conclusions and he was not at ALL a Nazi sympathizer.
he also had us watch "Obediance" in class and at the end of it turned on the lights and was shaking with anger and was like "I cannot believe you were LAUGHING at that film, at the pain of others. You are an example of the youth of today."
he also had us watch "Obediance" in class and at the end of it turned on the lights and was shaking with anger and was like "I cannot believe you were LAUGHING at that film, at the pain of others. You are an example of the youth of today."
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I totally understand the economics behind the price of the tickets. It is still too rich for my tastes. Hell, paying more than 35-40 buck for a mainstream artist is insane too, ie: 125$ to see Peter Gabriel (as good as his shows are) is way too much for me. And also the fact that I like only a very limited amount of Operas (probably more from ignorance than anything else but some just don't do anything for me, for example La Traviatta or Don Giovanni. And the three tenors piss me off)Nut Butter said:
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