Let's Talk About Grindcore

Demiurge said:
Yeah, lets give credence to these subsubsubgenres that were created by bands to promote themselves. Agoraphobic Nosebleed is the best acidcore band! Cephalic Carnage is the best hydrogrind band ever!
Take note, people. As my Hitler-admiring friend here pointed out, these stupid subsubsubgenres are made up by the band, or their label, as a way of promoting themselves and trying to help you to remember them. I think it's also a matter of trying to make themselves stand out amongst all the other goregrind/porngrind/grindcore bands out there.

For example:
Leng Tch'e play rock-influenced grindcore, but they call it "Razorgrind"
Fuck...I'm Dead play grindcore with a hint of goregrind and thrash, so they call it a "Gore Grind Thrash Attack"
Vaginal Carnage play gore/porn grind, they add in a word to make it "Sewer Goregrind" which reflects the "sewer vocals" of vocalist Chris
Cock and Ball Torture probably have the dumbest one of all, they simply play porngrind with a lot bondage/sexual torture themes and they (used to) call it "Bulldozer Bondage Gore"
Same deal with "Mincecore" - Agathocles just made it up.

It's stupid of course, but it serves a purpose and is not meant to be taken seriously.....it is grind after all......



As for Napalm Death, the last 2 CD's had quite a lot of grindcore in them, but of course, they'll never top their early years.



ffanatic said:
It's the polar opposite of prog, really.
That's one of the best things about it. No rock stars, no greed, no elitists, no attitudes, no huge budgets, no studio tricks. Grind is actually human.
Shove your corporate metal up your ringhole, poof.
 
Electronicoil said:
I generally don't care for gore lyrics, although I can appreciate early Carcass for some reason.

My favorite grindcore is really limited to Napalm Death and Carcass. I might check out Repulsion soon too. Seems like I'm 15 years behind the times on Grind.
HI! Do U hear grindcore band People? It's really interestingly. This guys combine east folklore music with funk guitars and

brutal grind it all. As for me I don't like sadistic and gore lyric and prefer political subgenre one. Especially I don't

like noisegrind bands just like Anal Cunt. It's not a serious music. I think they do It just for a joke.
 
Chopstick up the Peehole said:
That's one of the best things about it. No rock stars, no greed, no elitists, no attitudes, no huge budgets, no studio tricks. Grind is actually human.
Shove your corporate metal up your ringhole, poof.
You forgot "no music" as well. And your statement in regards to corporate metal disproves your statement regarding elitists and attitudes. And as for studio tricks, two words: drum machines.

There's too much good music out there to waste my time with something as worthless as grind is.
 
Grind is a bit like modern art. Shit in a jar and give it a title and someone is going to think it trumps DaVinci. Nevermind that grind merely panders to the stereotype of mindless metalhead invective amusicality. The only way grind bands could do a worse job at their anticulture polemic is to dress like Poison while they're doing it.

Naturally, my opinion toward black metal (especially NSBM) is similar, but I imagine Demiurge would latch onto that like a starving dog on a porkchop. And honestly, I'd rather just ridicule grindcore.
 
ffanatic said:
You forgot "no music" as well.
Uhhh...no. You're thinking of the genre of "Noise". That has no music. Or are you one of those retards who hears one Anal Cunt song and decides that ALL grind must be spastic noisecore shit?

ffanatic said:
And your statement in regards to corporate metal disproves your statement regarding elitists and attitudes.
I meant within the scene itself.

ffanatic said:
And as for studio tricks, two words: drum machines.
In case you hadn't noticed, grind isn't very popular, and grind bands come from all sorts of remote places around the world, therefore it can be hard to find good drummers to play in your shitty grind band, so a drum machine HAS to be used. Other bands, shocking as it may seem, CHOOSE to use a drum machine because they like the way it sounds. *gasp* Is that alright with you?

ffanatic said:
There's too much good music out there to waste my time with something as worthless as grind is.
There's too much good grind out there to waste my time on something as faggotty and boring as prog.
 
Chopstick up the Peehole said:
Uhhh...no. You're thinking of the genre of "Noise". That has no music. Or are you one of those retards who hears one Anal Cunt song and decides that ALL grind must be spastic noisecore shit?
All grind, by definition, is shit. I could waltz into a studio right now and write/record a grind CD if I wanted to, and you'd gobble it up look a hooker on Friday-night binge. The noise genre is clearly better, in that it makes no attempt to hide behind any musical form or structure.


Chopstick up the Peehole said:
I meant within the scene itself.
:lol:

You, as a member of said scene, don't see the irony in this?


Chopstick up the Peehole said:
In case you hadn't noticed, grind isn't very popular
Gee, I wonder why :rolleyes:

Chopstick up the Peehole said:
grind bands come from all sorts of remote places around the world, therefore it can be hard to find good drummers to play in your shitty grind band, so a drum machine HAS to be used. Other bands, shocking as it may seem, CHOOSE to use a drum machine because they like the way it sounds. *gasp* Is that alright with you?
:lol:

You said grind doesn't abide by certain principles, such as the use of "studio tricks." Now, you confess that some grind bands do indeed utilize such utilities..and why? For convenience, no less.

I know Agoraphobic Nosebleed use a drum machine, but it's a moot point. They suck, as does grind.

Chopstick up the Peehole said:
There's too much good grind out there to waste my time on something as faggotty and boring as prog.
I used prog as a basis for a musical comparison only. I should've forseen that you'd miss it entirely. And *surprise* ...it's missed. Entirely.
 
:wave: I like Grindcore, but alot of it is complete un-structured trash played at breakneck speed. Cephalic carnage and Soilent green are ace!
 
Initially, GrINDCORE is the genre more relative to punk & hardcore that death metal at all, isn't it?
"Music" Of Old grind bands combined simple hardcore-punk riffs with a lot quantities of blastbeats. Do U remember e.g early

Cripple Bastards, Rot, Napalm Death "Scum" and many others. And then grindcore evolves other genres tricks - death metal ones

in common e.g. Carcass music "Reek Of Putrefaction".
 
Nekrophilic said:
go back to play dungeons and dragons or to your dragonlance books faggot

Looks like all those years of listening to grindcore have severely impaired your cognitive functioning. Or perhaps, the venereal diseases contracted from assfuckings from obese, negro prostitutes are finally taking their toll.
 
Demiurge said:
Looks like all those years of listening to grindcore have severely impaired your cognitive functioning. Or perhaps, the venereal diseases contracted from assfuckings from obese, negro prostitutes are finally taking their toll.
Take it easy on him. Can we really expect someone of his blithering, philistine pig-ignorance to be capable of seeing beyond stereotypes? Or use punctuation (at all)?

.....

No, you're right. He's a lesser mammal. Forget I said anything.
 
Naplam Death haven't released a grind CD in ages.

right thats bollocks for a start
they've always been more griind than death apart from maybe harmony corruption + a couple of latter ones.
have you seen the current (post from enslavement...) line up play the early songs live? they fucking rip
the last TWO albums by nd are grindcore. to say they are influenced by grind is doing them a dis-service considering they are the greatest influence ON the grind scene

there is a lot of shit grind, just as there is a lot of shit death metal

really what needs to be done here is a little recomendation

terrorizer
brutal truth
rottensound
nasum
discordance axis
inside conflict
extreme noise terror
scalplock

no gore there, just good grindcore

and of course napalm death

then listen to some early discharge to hear wer it originates from
then listen to motorhead to see where they got it from


carcass were always goregrind / death, never a grindcore band
even if they do rule

Cephalic carnage and Soilent green are ace!

damn right!!
 
unhinged said:
right thats bollocks for a start
they've always been more griind than death apart from maybe harmony corruption + a couple of latter ones.
have you seen the current (post from enslavement...) line up play the early songs live? they fucking rip
The only mid-era ND albums i've got are Words From the Exit Wound and Inside the Torn Apart and they are no WAY grind. Unless weak general modern metal is somehow grind. I wouldn't even say Order of the Leech was more grind than death.
 
SculptedCold said:
The only mid-era ND albums i've got are Words From the Exit Wound and Inside the Torn Apart and they are no WAY grind. Unless weak general modern metal is somehow grind. I wouldn't even say Order of the Leech was more grind than death.


Did you check out Enemy of the Music Business? That was sort of their return to quality grind, with more modern touches. Almost all reviews I read considered it a 'major comeback'. Solid record all the way through, killer grooves.

I think its my favorite ND record.