4 Guitars Problem!

[Nico_pitty]

Hi Guys!
This is my first thread and first of all i wanna thank everybody because all of you are very prepareted in music...and i wanna say that this is the best forum i've ever been!
Anyway, i used cubase 5 and during my guitar editing i have some problems...after editing my 2 guitars( one panned L and one panned R) i decided to add another 2 guitar (one panned 75 R and one panned 75 L) doing copy and paste with my two tracks...but when i did this the guitars sounded very bad and they sounded so flangered!! why this??
i ask you in order to have some response! thank guys and thanks joey

 

[timislegend]

it's called comb filtering and it occurs when two signals are out of phase with each other....if you want the guitars to be accurate you need to track them 4 times. don't copy and paste the takes.


edit: even if you track four guitars you might end up with some comb filtering. i recommend tracking four times then processing the two groups differently.

example: two guitars (L/R) with you focus processing. then the other two guitars (pan to taste) with mild processing (for detail).

 

[ShelbyStanga]

The reason for that is that copying and pasting a guitar track is not the same as doubling it. It's the same part, happening twice in the recording. All that you'd get from doing that is more volume, and some really bad phase issues. I'm not really for quad tracking, but if you're going to do it, all four parts need to be separately played. Same part, played four different times, panned accordingly.

 

[ShelbyStanga]

I guess I was about two minutes late on that response, haha.

 

[Nico_pitty]

So i'm gonna Play and register another two tracks and then edit them again?? thnx guys

 

[OneDaySky]

Yeah what Tim said is spot on. But I've had some success with using dual channels on podfarm. Making channel a and b totally different and recording the send 1 and 3 together, so you record twice and get 4 tracks. Micha from Periphery also used this before. I used the technique on my bands new 2011 EP which you can download from my signature. Goodluck dude!

 

[Nico_pitty]

Gr8t quality! how do you get this sound...i have steven slate ex and pod farm but i don't manage to get it!Drums and guitar togheter always seem too much confuse...i have to regulate the volume??

 

[Nico_pitty]

Yeah what Tim said is spot on. But I've had some success with using dual channels on podfarm. Making channel a and b totally different and recording the send 1 and 3 together, so you record twice and get 4 tracks. Micha from Periphery also used this before. I used the technique on my bands new 2011 EP which you can download from my signature. Goodluck dude!

Gr8t quality! how do you get this sound...i have steven slate ex and pod farm but i don't manage to get it!Drums and guitar togheter always seem too much confuse...i have to regulate the volume??