A frustrating dilemma...

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I have a strong desire to be more productive musically, and I have lots of time to work at that goal, but I can't seem to figure out what I want to do. I can't figure out what musical direction I want to go in. :confused:

I'll feel motivated to take off in one direction - and suddenly everything will feel forced and uninspired and I'll feel as though I should be doing something entirely different. But when I do, I begin to feel the same things almost immediately. The problem is, I am extraordinarily fickle and nothing seems to satisfy me for very long.

Does anybody have any advice for focusing your attention and for finding real and consistent inspiration?
 
When i do any projects, i usualy bring a friend with me, so when you get that feeling, you can ask your friend "What should i do now?".
That way, ive finished songs in one day, that i normally wouldnt finish in a month.
 
real and consistent inspiration

I'm sorry to disappoint you here but if I would know, I would write a book and earn millions on it. There are million ways of achieving this, all I can do is give you my method which will probably not work for you but anyhow:

First of all you have to ask yourself wether you'd like to "copy" any genre or simply try your own without taking ANY song material from other bands because this way you will always find that you fool yourself and not really writing your own true music that reflects you and you only. Obviously, I will only tell something about the latter.

Take anything out of your life you want to express yourself with. Be it dreams, feelings, experiences, political statements whatever... now try to associate music with it in an abstract way to give it an overall shape. Yeah, you can write music about anything and attach it to any style, that's true but for starters just stick with a logic that combines the vibe of your thoughts with what you want to create musically.

As far as songwriting goes... I reckon that you are pretty open-minded (judging from your Myspace) and do not limit yourself to certain labels, so that is actually something you can use to your advantage.

The first step seems quite easy too often. Either you have a melody/harmony or a simple riff in your head that you think could be usable and you write it down/record it whatever... or you just sit down and play around with your guitar until you find something that reflects your current mood. Keep in mind that both these "ways" are apparently highly conditioned to how you feel at that time. If you feel depressed it is easier to write slow, atmospheric stuff and if you're happy you'd rather play some very melodic stuff, happy happy joy joy! :goggly:

No really, as far as inspiration goes, I'm in the same boat. I usually start with a single riff/melody/ whatever and see if I can work from there. In 95% of the cases I can't think of a follow-up that goes along with the vibe of the first without destroying it. So I leave my guitar and do something completely else to detach myself from the prejudices and from the initial impression of what I've written down after all. Sometimes I do not come back to an idea for days until I completely forget how it sounded after all. And when I come back and re-listen I'll decide if it moves me at all or if it is complete utter crap. This process is very slow and time consuming and still, quite often pretty absorbing but in the end it is the best way to achieve results that you are satisfied with, which is the single most important thing anyways.

I know a couple of (good!) musicians who do it similar so it can't be completely wrong, can it?

A little bit of pushing yourself to do something is important though. Even if you spend hours and hours writing on a piece just to find it completely useless afterwards. Doesn't matter. The experience counts. Just take these results and ask yourself why you dislike this and that and try to approach it differently with your next try.

And inspiration can be anything really. Maybe browse through Amazon and look for a good book or two. Doesn't have to rely on music as these "rules" apply to anyone who is stuck in his/her creativity.

Just look how the big dudes in the biz try to be efficient and pleased with their results. And even they often dislike their own older material. Take Mikael Akerfeldt for example. He just wrote stuff like a madman in the beginning and sorted stuff out being very picky all the time. That is a good thing. Be picky and choosey all the time. That's one big factor for quality in the long run. See were Mikael is now, he can go to a studio and fine-tune stuff from there, hell, actually write and extend material on-the-fly.
He might have been able to pull it off right from the first album but I'm 100% certain that it is much easier for him now since he found his unique style. I guess his next step would be just to take his music into yet another direction...

Another idea would be that you find yourself someone who could relate to your music somehow and take his feedback and ideas and see if they help you focus on what you want to achieve.

Don't force yourself too much and don't give up too soon. Try to find an instance where you are somewhat comfortable without rejecting your actions all the time.

Try different daytimes, different rooms (no, I'm not kidding here), different lighting situations (again, not a joke), drink a beer to feel more relaxed and stuff...you get the idea...

Sorry for the long post, can't put it in just a few words. I might add some points later on anyways :cool:
 
Thanks for the thorough feedback. I really didn't expect anything like that.

I think I would benefit a great deal from having a partner or just somebody to routinely bounce ideas off of. I talk myself out of everything and I have walked away from literally dozens of songs, if not hundreds, because I just decided I wanted to do something different. It makes sense at the time, but in retrospect it's annoying as hell.

The other point that really hit home was to just keep working because the experience is as important as the end product. That's the one I should listen to, because if I at least kept going with something even when my interests where flying all over the place - I would perhaps be able to refine my methods just through exhausting the possibilities.
 
I'm the same way, I always having a hard time sticking to a raw idea, but work best taking someone's idea and working with it to take it to the NEXT LEVEL, like a producer or something. It's just a lot of the ideas I get by myself are really weird or disturbing, so I've never really felt too comfortable working with anyone yet for fear of "fuck that guy is batshit crazy".
 
I'm the same way, I always having a hard time sticking to a raw idea, but work best taking someone's idea and working with it to take it to the NEXT LEVEL, like a producer or something.

That's what I like to do, since, being a drummer, I'm not usually writing the songs. Whenever I feel something can be improved upon in the melodies or rhythms, I'll throw in my two cents.
 
Metalhead28 said:
Does anybody have any advice for focusing your attention and for finding real and consistent inspiration?

Simply, find something that is real and consistently inspirational. If you're stuck in a mental setting looking for inspiration, you'll find it's finite edges. For instance love songs have been in the making for thousands of years, and songs about my parents not letting me play my xbox are rather few and far between. Mercifully, I might add.

This is just a basic on 'creating'. If you're looking into real story telling or conceptual music, that requires a lot more forethought.
 
Hahaha, this is becoming my problem. I've made the New Year's resolution to do something with my desire of music, but alas, like you, my interests are scattered across a lot of styles of music. I think, that maybe, if you can, try and multitask a lot of projects at once. That way, if you get tired of you, you can go to another, and once that one gets old, go to another one. It maybe leave things half finished, but, you'll get back to them eventually. Or, just try and take on one project and really plan it out and have a concept or what not. Many ways to go about it, just don't loose the inspiration or drive.:rock:
 
Thanks for the thorough feedback. I really didn't expect anything like that.

I think I would benefit a great deal from having a partner or just somebody to routinely bounce ideas off of. I talk myself out of everything and I have walked away from literally dozens of songs, if not hundreds, because I just decided I wanted to do something different. It makes sense at the time, but in retrospect it's annoying as hell.

The other point that really hit home was to just keep working because the experience is as important as the end product. That's the one I should listen to, because if I at least kept going with something even when my interests where flying all over the place - I would perhaps be able to refine my methods just through exhausting the possibilities.

that's the spirit :cool: