Andy Sneap & Fishman?

Unfortunately, this is purely evaluating from only Ola's DIs, the Fishmans still sound quite compressed, not reaching the levels of dynamics that passive pickups have. I'm very interested in how these would sound using 18v. Would be great if their power supply could be switched between 9v and 18v.

They do seem to have a -6dB pad you can activate when wiring it up, so that could potentially stop the clipping/compression issues, though it would be at the expense of overall output. Guess I'll just have to deal with finding the space for two 9v batteries if I get them.

They actually are coil-splittable but for some reason they're not advertizing this feature. The Fluence pickups have several modes and options. Switching between two voicings, coil split and hf tilt.

Damn that just makes them even more appealing, especially if you can wire up a few push/pull pots to have one for switching passive/active and one to switch to coil tap, and maybe wire the coil tap to run through a single coil preamp (maybe they could supply the preamp seperate from the pickup for this kinda setup?)
 
Damn that just makes them even more appealing, especially if you can wire up a few push/pull pots to have one for switching passive/active and one to switch to coil tap, and maybe wire the coil tap to run through a single coil preamp (maybe they could supply the preamp seperate from the pickup for this kinda setup?)

I would rather use something like a Free Way Ultra Switch wiring all the different combinations directly to the switch, using a push pull for volume and voicing and another push pull for tone knob and hf tilt. Cool thing is that the pots won't negatively affect tone even when they're fully turned up like it happens with passives, since the preamp output is buffered. Gives lots possibilities for tone which is awesome.
 


Ryan just released a review. I don't like the format the most but it comes with DIs. Never heard of some of the functions he mentions (like the "vintage" high end roll off).
 
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Has anyone got these eventually? It's weird that there is still no direct comparison to EMGs I can find.
The comment about the superior preamps sounds like Fishman are confident their product is better but I am not sure how that translates in sound. If they were so confident it beats the EMGs they would have asked for comparison tests instead of just product reviews. Also I would expect more signature guitars to have these by now.
 
The guitarist in my band got theverything LTD KS-7 which has an evertune and fishmans. I can see if I can get him to record some DIs of some riffs on it and his other LTD which has EMGs. Might be a week or so.
 
I have been using a set of Fluence modern pickups for some time now, exclusively in the active voicing since I installed them into the stock EMG wiring, and what I can say so far is that the Fluence technology is simply outstanding. The modern set has a really great tone to it which needs very little to almost no tweaking to sound great, the note/string separation and clarity is noticeably better compared to BKPs or other passives using scatterwinding, they stay defined even under the highest amounts of gain and retain a nice solid sound whereas other pickups such as EMGs have the tendency to turn into a fizzy soup, and all that without producing even the tiniest amount of noise. They also feel really great when playing, possibly a bit more liquid if that makes any sense, with the dynamics coming fairy close to the feel of a passive pickup (they don't sound compressed at all as I initially assumed based on the DIs I reamped). I have yet to check out the passive voicing, coil splitting and high frequency tilt options which will make these even better by adding lots of tonal options and versatility.

I didn't really bother to directly compare these to EMGs since the differences were very easy to notice and making a comparison would have been too time consuming for me to do. I'm really satisfied with my own tone now and I'm not even thinking about putting the EMGs back in. The only thing I didn't like about the Fluence pickups is that I had to screw the neck pickup all the way into the guitar away from the strings in order to somewhat balance out the volumes between both pickups, even more so than with the EMGs. Having that said there's a cool workaround to this by using a separate trim pot to control the neck volume, making it possible to place both pickups where they sound best relative to the strings and dialing in the trim pot to match the neck to the bridge pickup. Due to the pickup's output being fully buffered none of the electronics negatively effect the signal, unlike with passive pickups where the volume and tone pots do eat some of the tone even when fully turned up.

Before I received my pickups I saw Unearth performing live, both Ken and Buzz were using modern sets in combination with their Kempers, which totally blew me away. Their sound was massive yet still had lots of clarity and this hard to describe fluid feel. It certainly made it a very enjoyable experience and was the best guitar tone I ever heard live! I had the chance to talk to Ken after the show who had a printed Fluence pickup core with him which was cool to check out. He also told me that there are no differences between using 9v vs 18v with Fluence pickups since their preamp design is superior to other actives and it doesn't care about the voltage that is supplied, which is also the reason why they feel and sound much more dynamic and open.

All in all I feel that the Fluence pickups are a great innovation to guitar pickups and are some of the best, if not the best pickups currently available. I suggest that anyone who's into actives should be checking them out. I have to add that besides Ken Susi's video showcasing the modern set's tone, none of the current reviews do a great job of demonstrating their tone or features all that well.

 
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Glad you found my clips useful. My take on the Fluence's is that it has the tone of an EMG with the clarity of a BKP.
 
Found some comparison files:
http://www.sevenstring.org/forum/4373016-post7.html

I was interested in Ceramic tone1 vs EMG81. At first I heard no big difference but when I cut it up and placed sections back to back I could better hear the difference in low end tightness and chord note separation.
What do you guys think?

I think the clips show the differences fairly well. The modern set is more defined and tighter, has better tone, clarity and the notes jump at you more which gives the tone some dimension. I found these differences to be more pronounced when playing them myself for some reason. The only thing that is missing from this comparisons is showing how the Fluence pickups compare when using big chords under distortion, since the lower notes don't drown out the higher notes and every single note can be heard clearly. A good example for this can be heard at the end of this install guide at about 1:03:33.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEMw4tJ7mdU&t=1h03m33s[/ame]
 
One aspect I don't see mentioned much is battery life.

EMG:
From a typical 9-Volt battery you can expect about 3000 hours of battery life until the battery voltage will be reduced to 4.5 Volts.
With 2 pickups in the instrument, battery life will be about half that, or about 1500 Hours.
http://www.emgpickups.com/media/productfile/p/o/powertips_tricks_0230-0190c.pdf

Fishman:
You can expect up to 200 hours from a typical alkaline battery (100 hours for a 2-pickup set).
http://www.fishman.com/files/fluence_modern_humbuckers_user_guide.pdf

1/15 life is not impressive, I guess rechargeables come quickly to mind...
 
FINALLY ordered a set of these. Will try and record some clips to do a comparison with the EMG's.
Hoping to wire these up to allow active/passive switching, coil tap AND the high frequency tilt. I expect the wiring to be hellish! lol

If anyones looking to buy Dawsons.co.uk have them on sale for £149 with free delivery!