any tips for smoothing cymbals?

[mick thompson]

any tips for smoothing cymbals? china,crashes,hats, maybe even the ride

currently what i do is a high pass, slight compression and some plate reverb but it sounds a bit naf.

anyone care bears care to share? eh! (that wos totally gay) :Smokin:

 

[Pedro Teixeira]

A compressor with a fast attack will kill a bit of the initial transient, that's what I always do if I want some silky smooth cymbals, also make sure you've got a nice reverb going there, but don't overuse it, just try to create a sort of "aura" around the cymbals that make them as if they are being played in a really nice room

 

[ahjteam]

I use a de-esser or the Waves C1-sc to snatch the offending frequencies few dBs

 

[KeithRT99]

i like the rverb pump preset on overheads.

 

[Glenn Fricker]

Get better mics. Seriously.

Cheap SD condensers sound like shit on cymbals. I should know, I've gone through many, many pairs over the years.

I highly recommend a pair of Oktavamod Mk012's. They're freakin' amazing.
http://www.oktavamodshop.com/product_info.php?products_id=108&osCsid=dcl3f49gdumlg1kisdgbviqi94

 

[Melodeath]

I use a compressor with about a 30 ms attack

 

[mick thompson]

i like the rverb pump preset on overheads.

anyone got a link to where i can find this? i tried doing a google search and it keeps correcting it to reverb and not finding the correct results.

 

[ahjteam]

waves rverb: http://www.waves.com/content.aspx?id=192

 

[mick thompson]

cheers ahj

 

[KeithRT99]

hah i meant rcomp

 

[-Noodles-]

Get better mics. Seriously.

Cheap SD condensers sound like shit on cymbals. I should know, I've gone through many, many pairs over the years.
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I better you with;

use better cymbals AND better mics.

Hell, even better cymbals help 100%.

 

[Styvo]

Get better mics. Seriously.

Cheap SD condensers sound like shit on cymbals. I should know, I've gone through many, many pairs over the years.

I highly recommend a pair of Oktavamod Mk012's. They're freakin' amazing.
http://www.oktavamodshop.com/product_info.php?products_id=108&osCsid=dcl3f49gdumlg1kisdgbviqi94

+1
Have been using all sorts of $300-$500 dollars mics for oheads.
Was fortunate enough to lend a pair of Milabs and instantly,everyone who heard them mentioned how wonderful the cymbals sounded.
Not to mention also makes the drumkit sound way better too.

 

[John_C]

+1 to better cymbals.

The nicest micrphones in the world won't make shit sound good

 

[mick thompson]

hey cymbals are all nice. sabian AAX metal cymbals polished up to perfection.

for the mix im going to do the cymbals were mic'd with two AKG c480B's. i dont know if there any use or not but i presume they're ok because dynamically they come out nice and shimmer well. im just trying to make them smoothen out more

kit was a pearl master series

 

[gabriel g.]

The AKG c1000 is a little muffled. But thats great when you have to edit alot.
I would never use them for Rock stuff, and a "real" drumsound.
But they are amazing for deathmetal/deathcore/bree-.....) stuff with triggers.

When you low-cut the stereo track at maybe 600hz the cymbals still sound great!!!

I often use the beyerdynamc opus 53.
They are small and have a very straight frequency responce.
But I sometimes have problems with them because they are small condenser mics which react very fast.

looking forward to Rode NT5. Anyone using them?

cheers

 

[gabriel g.]

Oz which Octava mics to you mean?

OKTAVA MK 012 MSP6 or

OKTAVA MK 012-01 ???

the second cost the same like the Rode NT5 here in germany

 

[Eduardo Apolonia]

I often find the irritating frequencies with a narrow boost of about +20db
Then I'll cut those frequencies with narrow cuts always checking for some unnatural sounds due to the cuts.

 

[Glenn Fricker]

Oz which Octava mics to you mean?

OKTAVA MK 012 MSP6 or

OKTAVA MK 012-01 ???

the second cost the same like the Rode NT5 here in germany

Your choice they're either black or silver. Same mic.

 

[musickey]

Your choice they're either black or silver. Same mic.

Do want! and i will take mine in black.

I use narrow cuts as well, I have even used Multiband Comp to tame some of the highs, to me it sounded decent.

 

[gabriel g.]

Ah ok thanks Oz!!!!

I want to buy new OH mics this august, and they have to be killer
So I filtered out :

Octava 012
Rode NT5
AKG c1000

Oz what would you say because of your knowledge in drum recording
I think you will point on the Octava