Failure... unoriginal? Ok, name a band that sounds like them. I'll beat you to the punch and name the only one that I know who was around at the same time (noone sounded like either of these bands before they came around, they were very original and influential bands), and that band is another fantastic band named Hum. Failure are one of the main influences for what is easily the best rock band today, Cave In. Failure also could be compared very tangentially to Nirvana in their first two albums, but only because they shared the same producer so they had similar sounds at times. Ken Andrews is a far better lyricist, vocalist, and guitar player than anything Nirvana ever had either. Failure's final album, Fantastic Planet (a very apt name, as it is fucking fantastic beyond belief, I have considered it to be one of the three best rock albums of all time since it came out) was produced by Ken Andrews, so it has absolutely impeccable production. After that album came out, Failure disbanded and Ken Andrews became a music producer. He released a solo album a few years ago called On that wasn't that good, but he has since redeemed himself with a band that is making huge waves already, Year of the Rabbit, who have continued the Failure sound with great results. They just toured with Thursday, in what I can only assume was one hell of a show considering how awesome both bands are. These lame puns on Failure's name cannot work with Year of the Rabbit, which is a euphemism for success. No, DiscipleOfPlato has absolutely no idea of what he is talking about, most likely due to a crippling lack of intellect. There is no way that you can say Failure were unoriginal, simply because there is noone that came before them who sounded like them. Sure, they had influences. EVERY band has influences. But Failure created a sound that is easily discernable, and if you hear a Ken Andrews song you can instantly tell it is him. Just listen to Cave In's latest, there are huge Failure influences on that fantastic album, but Cave In continued the tradition of Failure with influences yet their own distinctive sound. Similarly, if I hear a Stephen Brodsky (of Cave In) song, I know it is him immediately. No, A Perfect Circle only receive acclaim due to the current trendwhores who slobber all over Maynard, for no apparent reason as he obviously has no real ideas.