Arson

Redheat

God of nothing
Jun 29, 2006
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Not long got into Amon Amarath and i absolutly love them, i love just about any music i appricate all bands, i may not like them but i do appriciate that if they sell records/albums and therefore people like them they have to be good in some respect! :)

My main focus is power metal and i love bands that tell stories though an album and love the whole Medieval aspect of it. It gives me such a buzz and when i can imagine the battles though the music its amazing. AA are probably not classed as power metal but hey you get what i mean' hopfully

Iv only listened to Fate Of Norns album (Ill be buying more albums if them when i get some spare money :D ) and have a question, i get most of the story upto this song 'Arson'

The song before 'Beheding of king' is my favourite so far, imaging the battle the riffs... everything :) but 'Arson' after i dont get how it co-insides. Do the 50 Warriors armed to the teeth come from the left over danish army? Or another tribe? They retreat to there homes so i presume they are on there homeland?

I might of got there jist of the album wrong but its told in a story. I dont get how this song ties in with the rest.

Am i looking too deep into this band??

Other bands i adore are Droagonland, Dragonforce, Celesty <-- anyone else heard of the band Celesty everyone i know has never heard of it :(





Drink is the key to life! :)
 
I dont think ALL of the songs on their albums are connected. Arson and Once Sealed in Blood are the only "connected" songs on the album.
 
In the Icelandic Sagas...Njals Saga especially... and in Heimskringla the concept of burning people in their homes is a common one. You arent looking too deep into it, but they do use lore and story based events for their material.
 
to me the album doesnt tell one specific story, but several short ones ;)
only "arson" and "once sealed in blood" are directly connected to each other.

im still wondering how you figured out that the album "fate of norns" is telling a single story :O i dont get it ...

btw. check pyramaze - legend of the bone carver
this album is, you might expect it, telling the fictional legend of the bonecarver. all songs on this album are linked to each other and tell a pretty nice story about good&evil
 
I think "Arson" and "Once sealed in blood" could have been one song but the way the songs are build is too different.In "Arson" there is no really "Refrain" or "hookline" but that is for me one of the best things of this song! But because of this fact there is no musically connection between the songs and they have to be 2 songs each on it&#180;s own!
And here is another album you should check out:
Blind Guardian - Nightfall in Middleearth
On this album there is a story told which is very similar to LotR and there are Battle sounds and all that on this cd and it is Power Metal!!!
 
Diabolical Dion said:
And here is another album you should check out:
Blind Guardian - Nightfall in Middleearth
On this album there is a story told which is very similar to LotR and there are Battle sounds and all that on this cd and it is Power Metal!!!

Blind Guardian - Nightfall in Middlearth i have that album, it is astounbding, just the epic dama the band produces escpcialy "Into The Storm" and "Time Stands Still", just the buzz i get from imaging it :D anyway,

I still find it interesting that no-one else finds the Fate of Norns album linked together as a story as i do.

After resurching more into the Viking ledges and myths, i relise that this album and lyrics are well over my head and will probably never know the true meaning. The resurch i have just done, into Odin, the myths about Valkyries
im more confused than ever as i cannot find a deffinate meaning.

Before i started looking into all this, and just listening to the lyrics and songs i precived my own interpritation.

Here is my Interperation of it, By the way i do have an active imagination, anyway here goes...


1. An Ancient Sign of Coming Storm

The Norn tribe gather there forces, they board there ships and navigate through the north winds and find a large force of ships sailing off from the english coast( I prefer english to danish coast as im english :) ), the english force see this, turn and attack the Norns fleet (20 ships); and english 40 ships. The english over run them with there arrows (longbow men >:)) and brave warriors.

2. Where Death Seems to Dwell

The norn army breaks and flees after loosing many men against the English force, stranded in a forhen land, they match away. Unfortuatnly for them they run into a desolate landscape, where huge vegitaion overwhels them. They try getting though the vegitaion, matching along a river bed. But to there dismay the river bed is overrun with weeds, lillys and other stuff (Cannot find the words) that makes it impossible to drink, or very stupid to drink. The Norn leader is worried plagued with the landscape they have fled into. He knows a Viking settlement is near.


3. The Fate Of Norns

The english army persue them, and trap them in the poor and desolate landscape, the English attack the straggling Norn army and kill the Norn leader. The Norns survive the onslaught and retreat to there ships where they landed to attack. They drag the Norn leader back to the ship and sail back to there homeland.

The norn's son is dismayed, and the history of the norns is potrayed to the mother who gave birth to the Norn leader and there son. Why should the Norns son suffer the tourture of seeing his Father die?

After grieving the loss of the Norse leader, and burning him in a ritual on there homeland they finally let go.

After getting over the grife of his father and recoving other the recent battles winter approches and the Norns settle in and prepare for the struggle ahead,

4. The Pursuit Of Vikings ( I relise i have missed out the odd verse or two but i do not understand the deep mythology of it all and like to keep my simple interpritaion of the songs beforei looked deeply into the lyrics) ... the saga continues...

Winter has passed, the ice melts and the vikinigs can one again set sail on the sea's to pluner towns where-ever they seek, when the Norns, reformed and joined by surrounding tibes join they once again mount there ships and look forward to the plundering of more ripe settlements. They set sail asking Odin, a god of ships, to help guide them through the trechurous sea and find a ripe, large and rich settlement for them to plunder.

5. Valkyries Ride (This gets confusing and cannot really place the true meaning of the Valkyries) but on hearing the song without looking deep into the mythology and lyrics here is my interpritation...

The norns find a settlement along the english coast and attack, it is lightly defended and defeat the local milita and plunder the town (along with the atrocities that follow). After the Norns leave, the Valkyries ride and plunder the dead, claiming what they can... i.e. armour, gold, swords, shields so that they can sell for some money.

The Norns return to there homeland with there riches, sell them in a large town and enjoy theere profit.

[I still adore the amazing strength of this era where the average man, can Row, Sail and Navigate from there homeland to a foreign settlement, attack the local militia, plunder and then row/sail and navigate back to the homeland!!!] This is not just including the vikings but many countrys that adapt to this kind of warefare] , at least this is my preception of the viking era and do adore it so much.


6. The Beheading Of A King - My absolutle favorite song of the album, the lyrics are so clear in this battle you can imagine it all... (With my imagination at least)

The danish fleet gathered a huge invastion force intending to over run the vikings, but scouts saw this force approching and wared the vikings. They rallyed the men together, along with the norns and the germans came to there aid and sent 500 hourse men.

As the danish force appoched the shore Erik gave the order to attack, "1000 men and 500 horsemen came charing down the beach!!!!!!" The danish king saw this sight and gave the order to retreat!!!! All obeyed except one ship; it held the kings own son, he despised the thought of flight and attacked on his own!....

The danish fleet had to turn around and attack King Eriks men! but it was too late to save the danish kings son!! .The fighing continued bloody and immense!!.......

near 2000 men died that day; most of them where danes!!.........................
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The danish king was captured and his head was released for a ransom (The danish did not know he was already dead).

7. Arson [Though i cannot place how this ties in with the rest i have come to accept the fate that a local tribe, jealous of the norns came and attacked to pluner them!!]

50 men armed to the teeth came, the scouts saw what was coming and blew the horn to warn the Norns. They were caught off guard and attacked though out numbered, they thought as good as any viking!

The Norns were overrun and retreated to there home. Using the bows and spears from the dead they hold the attackers off picking there targets with the bows and spears, they killed at least 20 of the attackers.... but taking heavy loses themselfs...

The attackers set fire to there home, the Norns knew it was over, they swore an oath that if anyone survuied they would take revenge on the attackers!!! They cut them selfs along the arm to mark the sign of the oath and with the blood draw from the wound sealed the oath!! As there home was burning the roof came down and made a rampart for the men to escape, the Norn leader (the late Norn leaders son) went first but as he scampered up the pressure of his meight caued the rest of the house to collapse, and the walls caved in and killed his men/friends and family...!) The Norn leader escaped!!

8. Once Sealed In Blood

After finding his way to a friendly settlement, settled in and gained his strength and the support of the population that was settled there. The roumour that the Norns, so brave in defending the attack from the Danes and plundering overseas was anilated (I presume this harsh word due to the barbaric ways of the Viking era). 5 Years had passed in this time, and he finally had the strength, courage and support to avenge his attackers. He went on and found the tribe that had slaughted his tribe , he met the scout that warned the tribe of coming attacks, the scout attacked on hourse back. The rain was puring down, the hourse bad in rain, was bogged down, the Norn leader, angered on by the scare along his arm that reminded him of the cause, attacked and killed the scout! That is one down, 29 to go! The saga continues into the next ablum!!

Image all that as you listen to the album, everything i said personified by astounding riffs and superbe drumming! Fuck me! <-- Litrally! What a band!!!

I have a 20 minute bike ride to work, having this album played on my mp3 player, at 5:30 am in the morning! Woah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I hope to find even more bands i can let my imagination run wild...Diabolical Dion iv got that album and do relate to it as i do with my imagination, iv mentioned Celisty, Dragonforce and Dragonland jeez, it makes me so damn happy! If only i could find a lass that appritiates the music as much as i! Still one day! :)

Drink is the key to a happy life!
 
Diabolical Dion said:
And here is another album you should check out:
Blind Guardian - Nightfall in Middleearth
On this album there is a story told which is very similar to LotR and there are Battle sounds and all that on this cd and it is Power Metal!!!

A great concept album, imho. Nevertheless, it tells the story of Tolkien's Silmarillion. The Silmarillion is written like a mixture of a bible and a history book, some people find it exhausting for that reason.

Just have a look at the wikipedia entry http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silmarillion

I liked Nightfall in Middlearth before I read the Silmarillion - I loved the album after I read it and listened to the album in order to find out which songs cover which part of the storyline .-)

Redheat said:
The Norn tribe gather there forces, they board there ships and navigate through the north winds and find a large force of ships sailing off from the english coast( I prefer english to danish coast as im english ), the english force see this, turn and attack the Norns fleet (20 ships); and english 40 ships. The english over run them with there arrows (longbow men >) and brave warriors.

I always thought the Norns were those naked chicks on the AA album cover :rock:
 
well ... norns aint a tribe or something ... check this norns

well although you got that wrong i like your imagination ;)

The danish king was captured and his head was released for a ransom (The danish did not know he was already dead).
the lyrics go like that:
"The danish king was captured, morst of his guards were dead. For a ransom he was released. Then his people took his head"
i understand it like that:
the danish pay the ransom for their living king and then slay him because he rather turned away from the fight instead of being honorly slain in battle.


grave digger have nice concept albums as well. you should listen to "rheingold" (about the ring of the nibelungs) and "the last supper" (texts are connected to the bible)
 
gekautes said:
the lyrics go like that:
"The danish king was captured, morst of his guards were dead. For a ransom he was released. Then his people took his head"
i understand it like that:
the danish pay the ransom for their living king and then slay him because he rather turned away from the fight instead of being honorly slain in battle.

Thanks for that it does sound better. I have just noticed that my spelling in that story was poor. I was slightly drunk then and had wanted to tell the story sober and would of sounded slightly better. It didnt help that England lost on penalties that eavning! haha Yesterday 03:22 AM !!

Although saying that i did not understand the mythology of the Norns and stuff i just like the ideas of medieval battles and to find bands that use this in there music. Over the time i listened to the album with looking at the lyrics and hearing what i thought i heard most of the time it was good :P

Can anyone suggest more bands like AA (Iv started looking but you guys/girls should know ones i might like), iv only heard most bands use the Medieval/Fantasy age in more melodic and epic bands like Dragonland and Blind Guardian. When I found AA and realised that it was death metal and about the Vikings.. woah :)

Cheers...

Just read a review from the AA site and this explains all the tracks as it probably should of done to most people... oh well :P

WOW. - 100%
Written by Filth on September 26th, 2004 - Reivew!
 
Redheat,you can find a lot of bands which deal with the northern mythology in the black metal-scene,too!
Of course this is a little bit darker and harder as the stuff you are used to.
I&#180;m wondering a little about your imaginaging about "The Fate of Norns".But yeah,this could be because of the fact that you don&#180;t know much about the viking mythology.
The "Norns" are three girls who weave the storyline of every human on earth.And the song goes like "The Fate of Norns awaits us all,noone can escape!It&#180;s time to answer Oden&#180;s call or walk into Hel&#180;s Gates!"
So this song is about a man,whose only child (son) dies. His father is sad about that and it is told that this kid was "the last one to carry his name" and it is told about the pain("No father should have to bury his child..."), the father feels!In a later part of the song he pleads to the "Allfather" (Oden) and he is asking why!
So this song tells a story about the fate,and the tragedy of a man!
 
Diabolical Dion said:
I´m wondering a little about your imaginaging about "The Fate of Norns".But yeah,this could be because of the fact that you don´t know much about the viking mythology.

Im sure alot of people are :) but you are right, not knowing any of the Mythology and just listening to the lyrics and my little background knowledge on vikings made my interpritation totally different but cool i think for you lot as well :P

I still use this story when listening to the album everything personifed, the story with the music weeeee. It takes my imagination into sureal land and then i can relax in another form, as the wonders of the real world dont exist :)

A very good tip for sleeping at night think of something sureal, invent a senario and play it out, a typical senario lasts about a month for me till it is exauhsted all possibilites, or i get board. Works for me at least.

Thanks for the help and links to put me in the right direction of understading more into the whole Viking mythology. It also helped me to refine and focus my search and found some interesting and informative sites. Got alot of reading ahead of me im more facinated than ever :)

Eldar im looking into Brennu Njáls Saga, found this site http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/tarristi/sagas.htm

It has other sagas as well :)