I searched for this but I didnt find anything. How do you avoid with high gains that slide guitar noises between chords? Do you use a Deesser with automation? Eq with automation? Or something else?
Avoiding guitar noises
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Anssi Tenhunen
Tighter playing fixes this problem, but I usually just don't give a fuck about the fret noises. But if I do, I just edit them out.
But this is not a technical problem, it comes from high gains in guitars. It´s not a major problem but sometimes can be too annoying. In pro albuns I dont hear this shit.
Pretty sure it's just a question of technique dude, and newer strings! But yeah, I used to have the problem, but really tried to isolate what it was in my left hand movements that was causing it, and have reduced it substantially! Of course, if we're talking about recording other people who might not have as much motivation to change and thus having to find a way to reduce it after recording, that's another story...
TheWinterSnow
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record with fresh strings
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but seriously old strings produce the squeaking when you slide, brand new strings don't do that as much, at least not to the point where they are excessive beyond what you would hear on a pro album. Even so to get a quiet sound from any string you can use a lemon oil string spray even though I think they make the strings feel greasy, they really work for sliding around and not worrying about if you are going to squeak or not.
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but seriously old strings produce the squeaking when you slide, brand new strings don't do that as much, at least not to the point where they are excessive beyond what you would hear on a pro album. Even so to get a quiet sound from any string you can use a lemon oil string spray even though I think they make the strings feel greasy, they really work for sliding around and not worrying about if you are going to squeak or not.
roy22341
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I think a little bit (and when I say little, I mean a very little bit) of string noise can really add some charm and character to a song. Makes it a little more organic. But new strings is the answer.
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Moonlight_Seeker
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Yeah, guitar player skills are the problem. You can record in DI and then go in melodyne and cut the shit out. 
Recording slower might also help.
Recording slower might also help.
But with low gain this does not happen. But you are right I realize that a better technique can improve the problem. I thought this problem was always solved with post processing. I didnt notice that newer strings could make the difference also. Thanks man.
But see this, let me show an example
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--6--3------
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--4--1------
Before I reach the second chord I have to pass my fingers between 3 and 2 in fingerboard and the noises comes from transition. Even with a great technique it´s almost impossible to do it 100% clean. And that is annoying!lol
All I can say is "almost" is the key word there dude, cuz it is possible; it took me a long time to get it, believe me, and sometimes I still have to remind myself and relearn it, but I've been recording myself for a few years now, so trust me when I say it gets easier! And higher gain for all intents and purposes reduces dynamics, so the softer things are brought up (e.g. sliding noise), made all the worse by the clarity of EMG's! (however, IMO if you can master them, then many "fuck yeahs" will ensue 
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Note: I don't know if you're using EMG's or not, I just thought it was pretty relevant to mention
)Note: I don't know if you're using EMG's or not, I just thought it was pretty relevant to mention
If you say I believe
When we play we dont realize the errors that we have but when we record it´s another thing. We notice all the shit going on!lol But as they say, practice makes perfection. No I dont have EMG, I am a poor guy with shitty stuff!lol Once again thanks for the advices
When we play we dont realize the errors that we have but when we record it´s another thing. We notice all the shit going on!lol But as they say, practice makes perfection. No I dont have EMG, I am a poor guy with shitty stuff!lol Once again thanks for the advicesIf you say I believe
Yeah dude, it's amazing how much more you notice when you're recording; things will get hidden in the mix to a certain degree at least, but still, it's nowhere near the ass-saver that the wall of live sound can be!
And Masterbeast, I've never used any of those lubricant types for strings themselves (I should really invest in some nut sauce though, the fucking "plinks" of tuning up my high strings are driving me bonkers
), but I dunno, my hands are sweaty enough as it is, I don't really like the idea of potentially gunking up (and thus dulling) my strings even faster!
Force666
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I use a little pencil to add some graphite to the nut-grooves and that lubes em' up fine.
The squeak is pretty darn preventable. It's a matter of how quick a movement vs. pressure on the string you use with your left hand, and an alternating "light palm/finger mute" between both hands as you play. That and maybe too much treble dialed in on the amp.
The squeak is pretty darn preventable. It's a matter of how quick a movement vs. pressure on the string you use with your left hand, and an alternating "light palm/finger mute" between both hands as you play. That and maybe too much treble dialed in on the amp.
Every 6 hours, tell me another one
(I mean, I would...if I could afford it 
) But I must admit, for an intense session of RIFFING, I can definitely see the appeal...
Trevoire520
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I think alot of the battle is actually using less gain, obviously technique and new strings are big factors too but overgained amps are the worst culprit for excessive string noise.
Yeah, but the only reason for that is more gain brings up more of the things that otherwise wouldn't be as apparent, so technique is still the issue! I mean, of course, there's only so much you can do, and I'm not advocating maxing the gain by any means, I just know I prefer the tone of a really saturated amp, so I'm not gonna sacrifice that because of some noises that I feel I can clean up by playing a better take!
TheWinterSnow
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I found that when you play with old strings, the problem lies with you attempting to pick your fingers up before sliding down. The solution is to actually slide your fingers across the strings with almost the same tension as you would use to fret a note. Something about lightly grazing a dirty old string that makes it do that sound, kind of like when you go to wipe of the high E of dirt and junk and you hear that light high pitch squealing that doesn't happen when you wipe down new strings. On a brand new set no matter how hard I try and use wrong techniques I cannot for the life of me make the squeaking sound, so I think its a bad technique thing when you are using old strings. Of course finger ease works really well, although it makes your strings feel greasy and leaves your hands feeling the same way after playing even though your hands aren't wet. It also has a way of tarnishing cheap fretboards, phosphorus strings and cheap frets, so I like to stay away from it.
Yesterday I was playing guitar and I realized if we develope the speed between chords we could avoid much more noises. A slowly chord change brings much more noise than a faster one. But it´s a thing that needs to be worked every time we play. Thank you all for your feedback. You rule
