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lanky noob

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Okay so I got bored and watched the a's vs yankees game, and found it a billion times better than the shit sports we have in england (besides international rugby)

I get how the scoring system works, strikes, balls and all that stuff, but the thing I don't get is how they figure out which teams go into playoffs, what the playoffs actually do and what the world series is....

and why don't they have an overall league table alongside the divisions one?

any americans/savvy brits care to explain?
 
I get how the scoring system works, strikes, balls and all that stuff, but the thing I don't get is how they figure out which teams go into playoffs, what the playoffs actually do and what the world series is....

and why don't they have an overall league table alongside the divisions one?

any americans/savvy brits care to explain?

There are two main divisions in MLB, American League and National League. Each league has three sub-divisions, East, Central, and West. The winner of each sub-division gets to go to the playoffs, and the team with the best overall record that finishes in second place is called the "wild card" and also gets to go. The four teams in each league play each other in the playoffs and the winner moves on to the World Series. The World series is the championship game between the winner of the American League and the National League.
Hopefully that helps!
 
There are two main divisions in MLB, American League and National League. Each league has three sub-divisions, East, Central, and West. The winner of each sub-division gets to go to the playoffs, and the team with the best overall record that finishes in second place is called the "wild card" and also gets to go. The four teams in each league play each other in the playoffs and the winner moves on to the World Series. The World series is the championship game between the winner of the American League and the National League.
Hopefully that helps!


Massively, I actually know what i'm looking at on league tables and shit now :p

cheers!
 
I don't get it, is the "national league" a separate "american" league ?


Yeah, about the only thing I managed to pick up on myself, not entirely sure why, all I can make from it is that they used to bitch at each other a load, and one of them has an extra rule
 
Wins both what? The NL and AL are completely separate leagues. The only time the play each other is the few games of interleague play, where they adjust to the home teams designated hitter rules, then the All-Star break, and finally the World Series.
 
Yeah the AL/NL thing isn't actually very complicated. Both the American and National leagues are under the MLB (Major League Baseball) umbrella, and as Revson said, for the most part, AL teams play other AL teams all season long, and NL teams play NL teams. Neither league is considered superior to the other as far as professional talent goes, and it's not unusual at all for a player to be traded, signed, etc across league-lines over the course of their career. I don't really know the history of how the current league arrangement came to be, but growing up in Seattle and being a lifelong Mariners fan (an AL team), I've always paid the most attention to AL teams and I'm definitely most accustomed to the DH (designated hitter) in the batting lineup, rather than the pitcher in the batting lineup. Honestly, I think the DH is a much better system than making a pitcher feel obligated to regularly and actively work on his hitting, because pitching is immensely difficult in ways that hitting and fielding are not (both physically and psychologically). I think it makes the most sense to let pitchers focus entirely on their primary role with the team, and then let the team insert a non-pitcher into the DH roster spot for each game! NL teams make no consideration at all of a pitcher's ability to hit when signing them to a multi-year, eight or nine-figure salary...they sign him completely for his specialized pitching abilities, so why make pitchers hit at all?

Anyway, baseball is amazing! If you're interested at all, I highly recommend [ame="http://www.amazon.com/Thinking-Fans-Guide-Baseball-Edition/dp/189496330X"]The Thinking Fan's Guide to Baseball[/ame] by Leonard Koppett. It's excellently written and it really cracks open the fine details of the game, without reading like a boring textbook. I've been a baseball fan my entire life, and as I've gotten older, I've come to appreciate the game at a far more mature level than I ever did as a child. It's such an intense, mentally stimulating game for me...it's almost like a big game of chess, with each move being carried out by a field full of talented athletes. I'm fairly used to hearing people argue that baseball is just way too boring and slow, but someone who makes that argument is most likely just ignorant to the underlying emotions and strategies of the sport, or they just don't have enough of an attention span to really get engulfed into a sport that isn't totally saturated with endless quick movement. Even just starting to understand the underlying thought processes and strategies between the pitcher/batter match-up goes a long ways towards making the game come alive. Sure, the moments of actual action are very short-lived, relative to the length of the complete game itself, but there's a lot going on beneath the surface that simply takes time for most people to learn to fully appreciate.

Oh, and check out the movie Moneyball if you haven't already seen it. Really well done, and it's also a good introduction to the role of sabermetrics in baseball, which is pretty fascinating (and controversial to some), and has only been widely respected and employed in baseball over the last decade or so. Think of sabermetrics as basically economics-style equations, where you are measuring a player's skill set and evaluating their talent using mathematical representations of their in-game statistics. It can get really deeply intense and complicated, and I don't claim to be able to articulate all of it, haha...
 
really the only thing you need to know about baseball is that the san francisco giants are the only team that matters :kickass:
 
Don't forget ass grabs, buying Dominican players with sacks of potatoes, being able to be overweight, and calling yourself a "World Champion" despite never playing anyone from anywhere but Canada or Japan (and that's if you're lucky). :lol:
 
If you guys think this is hard to follow, try college football.:lol:

American football irritates me, it's so fucking slow.
I remember reading somewhere that on average in a three hour broadcast football game, there's only ten minutes of action, the rest is setting up, time outs and ad breaks
 
American football irritates me, it's so fucking slow.
I remember reading somewhere that on average in a three hour broadcast football game, there's only ten minutes of action, the rest is setting up, time outs and ad breaks

there's 60 minutes of action...which is evident by the four 15-minute quarters

but...the play clock often stops from the time one play ends until the next starts, so along w/ timeouts and commericals, it gets pretty long

baseball is actually the one sport where an entire 3-hr.+ game can be easily condensed down to 15-20 min. - in fact, there's some local channels that will re-broadcast games in a 30-min. time slot with all the bullshit cut out
 
If you guys win 2 more World Series you'll have as many as the Oakland A's!

And that number doesn't look like it'll increase any time soon given how the a's are doing against cleveland, and the general fact that parker's been a bit meh in the games i've seen compared to what i've heard/seen on highlights from last season, ah well :D