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I agree completly with the Brat. To be totaly honest I am disliking middle eastern culture more and more. The fact that raping a women or beating the shit out of one is considerd a minor offense fucking chaps my hide. I swear on all thats holly and un holly. I ever enounter a rapist I'd cut his fuckin balls of and mail it back to the parol board that let em out early!
WE NEED SGT D! FUck THe MIDDLE EAST!
 
weapon x so u reckon it should go something like this

"freedom loving countries should be at the mercy of cold blooded terrorists and the nations that train them)

come on man
 
KILL THEM ALL. FUCKING NUKE THEM! I wouldn't give a fucking rats ass about how many mid-east women and children are killed. They can thank their ancestors for that.
I'm all for terrorizing the terrorists.
PAYBACK'S A BITCH, MOTHER FUCKER!
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I can see all your points. I understand the "if someones gotta go I would rather it be them than us. I hope it never comes to that. I hope once the power structures are fractured that the people will rise up and over throw the dictators they are living under. Democracy is a great thing.
 
This shit pisses me off!!! Terrorism will not be eradicated, EVER! However, we have to do, what we have to do as a nation to make the threat as small as possible.

Yes, I realize, we should have toppled Hussein in '91. Everyone knows that. Look what Patton said about the Russians at the end of WWII. He too was branded a warmonger.

I do not want to see one drop of American blood shed. But it's already happened!! How soon we forget! Regardless of where it started, we need to finish it. Here is a partial list of countries that have sponsored terrorist activities against the US and/or our allies:

Iran, Iraq, Libya, Sudan, Syria, Afghanistan and the list goes on and on!

As far as I am concerned, since last September, the "gloves are off!"

What will it take for America to see that? A mushroom cloud over NYC? Maybe an outbreak of Smallpox. Poisoned water in LA?

These radicals have NO RESPECT FOR HUMAN LIFE. None. Zero, zilch. If we have to respond in kind to ensure our safety, so be it.

World War II could have been avoided if France & Britain stood up to Hitler when he was weak. There were many opportunities to do so. But they played, "the peace at any cost" card. The end result was 60 million dead.

Read that again: 60 MILLION DEAD.

Here is an article from George Cantor from the Detroit Press:

It is a fine thing to be for peace, to march and carry banners and lay down in front of government buildings.
But when I listen to what the peace activists have to say, I wonder if they have really learned anything.
"War never solves anything," makes a nice slogan. But it isn't true. War solves a lot of things.
For example: We are no longer a British colony. Slavery is not practiced south of the Ohio River anymore. Germany is not an ongoing threat to European stability. Japan harbors no plans for military expansion in the Pacific.
All of these situations were resolved by war.
A few weeks ago, I sat down with a group of local activists, who base their opposition to war on religious principle. That is a position I certainly respect.
A sincere member of that group urged me to take a look at Germany and France. They were once enemies and now they are friends, she said. Couldn't the same thing happen between the United States and Iraq?
It's hard to argue with the logic of that statement because there isn't any. Germany and France are friends only as a result of a terrible war, which could have been avoided if France had gathered the resolution to confront its neighbor when it moved to occupy the Rhineland in violation of the Versailles Treaty.
Countries that violate treaties are not usually good bets as partners for peace.
As with most Americans, I am conflicted over a war with Iraq.
But sometimes I wish that in their readings the religious activists would glance at Jeremiah 6:14: "They have also healed the hurt of My people slightly, saying 'Peace, Peace,' when there is no peace."
Because peace must mean more than denial of war as a policy option and glib reassurances that all will be well. If your adversary does not share a commitment to peace, he will remain your adversary and, eventually, will come for you.
So what worries me about Saddam Hussein is not the fact that he is a thug. It is that he appears to be an irrational thug with weapons of mass destruction.
The leaders of most countries understands that an attack on the United States will assure their own destruction. This is what restrained all adversaries during the Cold War.
But the Taliban regime in Afghanistan was an exception, and we are all familiar with the result.
From all accounts, Iraq's dictator also is a man wildly out of touch with reality; surrounded by advisers who are terrified of saying anything but "yes."
Apparently, this sort of thing does not worry Barbra Streisand, Rob Reiner or Susan Sarandon. All things considered, I would prefer taking my cues on foreign policy from Jeremiah than those who practice the politics of self-approval.
I also agree with President George W. Bush, who said Monday night that this should not be a nation that has to live in fear. It may be hard to grasp in Malibu, but that is not peace.

Editorial writer George Cantor's column is published on Saturday. Contact him at (313) 222-2668 or gcantor@detnews.com. Write letters to letters@detnews.com.

The truth isn't pretty.
But to not act is national suicide.
 
Stop Sharon from bombing, killing, stomping. grinding, sniping & shooting lil'kids in Palestine.

Then we will see a drastic drop in terrorist act!!

Can't u guys get it???

& Brat pls pls..dont talk bout something udont know. There is never a Muslim woman got shot or hanged because she didn't cover herself. Where did u get these facts? And about muslim Women got raped for no reason?? Does all the rape happens in the US for a reason then??

all these violence is caused by violence.
 
Amard,

What are you trying to say,

"Stop Sharon from bombing, killing, stomping. grinding, sniping & shooting lil'kids in Palestine.

Then we will see a drastic drop in terrorist act!! "?

The last I checke the Israeli's do not target civilians, unlike the radical Palestinian fringe.

I agree Israel is sort of repressive. But that's what you will have when your next door neighbor is sending his kids to be a suicide bomber. Too bad Israel & Palestine, seem to be unable to work out a solution.

But terror is never going to work!
 
Originally posted by bRaTpRiNcEsS
How come Canadians know more about us than we know about them??? Is that really wise?? :lol:

Don't you know there is an underground movement of Canada taking over the world.;)

Mrthrax - weapon x so u reckon it should go something like this
"freedom loving countries should be at the mercy of cold blooded terrorists and the nations that train them)

You don't get what I'm trying to say. Stomp those friggin terrorist out, but not at the genocide of millions of people. Doing so will prove that the States are as cowardly as the terrorist. You murder so many innocent civilians, you will create nothing but more terrorist; example look at Israel and Palestine. You will create civil unrest in your own country, 'cause not every American is a murdering maniac.

Now you will probably look at this thread and still not get what I'm saying. Ohh and please don't try to reckon on my behalf, 'cause what you reckon is not what I believe.

We will probably won't agree on this subject, so cheers anyhow.:D
 
Originally posted by Amard Butambul
Brat pls pls..dont talk bout something udont know. There is never a Muslim woman got shot or hanged because she didn't cover herself. Where did u get these facts? And about muslim Women got raped for no reason?? Does all the rape happens in the US for a reason then??

all these violence is caused by violence.

First of all, you tell me where exactly I singled out Muslims exclusively. I mentioned an entire region. Each country has their own set of ridiculous laws. Just because something is against Muslim law doesn't mean it's against the civil laws in that country. There are plenty of things right here in America that are against "church laws" that are perfectly legal in the civil world, so I know the concept doesn't escape everyone. These things are on the news ALL THE TIME, which is why no one else seemed to disagree with me. Over there, women are possessions and nothing more. I have seen interviews with women in their own homes who are scared to death to let any man see them not covered up. And the rape I was referring to was when a man lets his entire family gang rape his wife because she didn't act proper during dinner. THAT particular type of rape is a punishment, not a random act. The difference is that in America, something would be done about it. Over there, the men would be congratulated. Why don't you go ahead and deny the existence of female circumcision while you're at it????

Furthermore, Isreal and Palestine can stop all the bullshit tomorrow morning and there will still be terrorism running rampant throughout the world, so blaming one country or another is ridiculous. Bin Laden didn't do 9/11 because of Sharon. It's going to take a hell of a lot more to get rid of the problem, and not recognizing that is both ignorant and naive.
 
Originally posted by bRaTpRiNcEsS
Furthermore, Isreal and Palestine can stop all the bullshit tomorrow morning and there will still be terrorism running rampant throughout the world, so blaming one country or another is ridiculous.
Exactly. Which is why the people that say we should just "blow up the middle east" are fucked up. Going to war against Iraq won't stop terrorism. Hell, thay might even make it worse, at least in terms of terrorist attacks against the US. In the meantime, countless of innocent people will die. "Better them than us" you say? Sorry, killing innocent people makes you no better than any of the terrorists, so what you're really saying is "terrorism is okay as long as it's us causing the terror".

Terrorism should be fought. But blowing up the middle east won't stop it, and Bush's personal vendetta against Saddam because his daddy couldn't get the job done a decade ago won't make terrorism go away either.
 
Ok then what should we do? Just give Iraq all the time they need to build all the weapons of mass destruction they need to blow up half the fucking world before we do anything? We can't sit on our ass and wait for them to strike first because then it'll be too late. It's not like if we leave Iraq alone Soddam will say "OK that's all I wanted is to be left alone and shown some respect, now I'm going to turn over a new leaf and become a nice guy now and stop killing my people and share my oil wealth with my poor countrymen, hell I'm even going to stop my nuclear weapons project" That's not how it goes, the fucker needs taken out now if he doesn't want to play by the rules and let weapons inspectors do their thing.
Another thing, an attack on Iraq would be FAR from an act of terrorism. It would be a military assalult on their millitary. Sure innocent people will no doubt be caught in the middle but that can't be helped. The attack would be for the good of the people of Iraq in the long run. Much in the way our attack on Japan and Germany was a good thing for those countries in the long run. We didn't go out to conquer those countries we went out to overthrow their dictators and make them a better place. We could have conquered them and made them our own but that's not what the US is all about.
 
Isnt it nice that people in this forum with such different views can join in unity on one subject! When the hell is the new album out?
I think peace in the middle east is a more probable occurance in the next 6 months!!!