BP capped the oil leak

bout time they capped this shitz! I thought it was going to take much longer than this to put a rubber stopper in there.

roy22341 said:
So now that this thing is capped (at least temporarily) who is going to have the balls to take a look at our absurd energy consumption and realize that this spill, as massive as it was, represents two (yes 2) days worth of oil consumption for the United States? And I'm tired of hearing the bullshit about wind and solar, because honestly, that's not going to cut it right now or any time soon. So in the light of this disaster, how many Americans (or people of any nation for that matter) are going to cut back on their consumption of petroleum based products? I work for a very large oil services company, and right now we're being absolutely slaughtered by this moratorium, but luckily, I know the answer to the previous question - and in due time I'll be fruitfully back to work making money off the people who constantly bitch about oil companies.
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+1! we consume far to much, we have entire industries just for shipping and moving energy around which uses even more energy. we need to be more region specific. I read (I think it was on physorg...) that if we put a 100x100 mile array of solar panels in the deserts of new mexico, we would more than cover our energy consumption needs. but we don't even have to go that far, we just need get the energy companies to not think of profit as the motivating factor. what about taking care of our one and only home? my sisters dog doesn't even shit where it eats.

somehow we all have to change our habits and rethink what our wants and needs truly are, and not just go along with what the marketing machines tell us we need. the only way the marketing is going to change is if we demand it, and change our habits. but like you said roy, it almost certainly won't happen. we take the path of least resistance. maybe someday the universe will kill us all and something smarter than us will take our place. I used to have some hope that people can/will change their ways, but I've really been militant; engaging people in this types of conversation. only to be arrogantly shrugged off or insulted. there are a million ways for us to irrationally justify our behavior. I also believe too many people are waiting for some afterlife that isn't going to happen to be concerned with evil human affairs in the devil's playground.
 
I read (I think it was on physorg...) that if we put a 100x100 mile array of solar panels in the deserts of new mexico, we would more than cover our energy consumption needs
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you may be able to capture that much energy, but again you run into the problem of getting it to where it needs to go. you can't just run an extension cord from new mexico to new york...
 
roy22341 said:
So now that this thing is capped (at least temporarily) who is going to have the balls to take a look at our absurd energy consumption and realize that this spill, as massive as it was, represents two (yes 2) days worth of oil consumption for the United States? And I'm tired of hearing the bullshit about wind and solar, because honestly, that's not going to cut it right now or any time soon. So in the light of this disaster, how many Americans (or people of any nation for that matter) are going to cut back on their consumption of petroleum based products? I work for a very large oil services company, and right now we're being absolutely slaughtered by this moratorium, but luckily, I know the answer to the previous question - and in due time I'll be fruitfully back to work making money off the people who constantly bitch about oil companies.
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Do you have any sources that it represents 2 days of oil used for energy?
Because you know that very same oil is used to make asphalt, plastics, rubber etc.

Then again, we do need to look at our power consumption.
Here in Sweden we have gotten pretty good at it(Im not one of them though.), but where still not near where we need to be.
 
JeffTD said:
No, you're reading the key wrong. The key is in tons, not gallons. The Lakeview Gusher was 1.2 million tons/278 million gallons, the Gulf of Mexico spill is currently at ~513,000 tons/184 million gallons.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_spills#Largest_oil_spills
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Great, now I want to cry, lol

colonel kurtz said:
you may be able to capture that much energy, but again you run into the problem of getting it to where it needs to go. you can't just run an extension cord from new mexico to new york...
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Heu...you'd lose a lot of energy, but here in Quebec, our electricity comes from dams up north, and for your information, we're selling some to you in NY, and that's probably as far from NY as New-Mexico is. It's obiviously not an extension chord we're using, tho, lol
 
roy22341 said:
Well taking the high estimate of 60,000 bpd spilling into the Gulf. Over the course of the 80 days it was leaking that's 4.8 million barrels. In 2007 the U.S. consumed 20.68 million bpd. Divide it out and it's really something like 2.3 days. These numbers aren't super accurate obviously, but it's enough to give one a rough idea.



http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/ene_oil_con-energy-oil-consumption
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Based on the numbers in your posts, that'd be more like 1/4 of a days oil use?

4.8m barrels spilled over 20.68m barrels per day used= .23, unless I'm fucking things up conceptually.
 
Whatever the figures are, one fucking drop of oil in the ocean is still too much, and let me tell you, 696 515 767 L of freaking oil is just an environemental catastrophy wich long-term impact is just beyond our comprehension yet.
Unless you've got some shares in BP Jeff, I REALLY don't see why you're trying to minimize the biggest environemental disaster of the history of the US. So don't say you've seen worse, lol.
 
SimonTaddio_Qc said:
Whatever the figures are, one fucking drop of oil in the ocean is still too much, and let me tell you, 696 515 767 L of freaking oil is just an environemental catastrophy wich long-term impact is just beyond our comprehension yet.
Unless you've got some shares in BP Jeff, I REALLY don't see why you're trying to minimize the biggest environemental disaster of the history of the US. So don't say you've seen worse, lol.
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The bolded selection is why I'm trying to downplay an environmental disaster that is, while massive, relatively small compared to what we've seen/dealt with before - I'm sick of all the mass hysteria and panic surrounding Deepwater Horizon. It's been blown way out of proportion and the reporting around it has been deplorable, at best. This whole debacle has marked a low point in American journalism as far as I'm concerned - it was shite before, but this is ridiculous.
 
Journalism was and probably will be for a long time, from my point of view, pretty much only government (or whatever holds the power) propanganda, and honestly I don't give a crap about CNN, newspapers or whatever "information" media.

The only things I care about are:
1- The world wich we will leave to our childrens and our grandchildrens
2- Peace on a healthy earth
3- My vocal booth's frequency response

Sorry if you took it personally, I didn't meant to, buddy
 
found it... thanks for pointing it out.

I have to admit that even though I had my doubts, I was still worried...
 
Yeah you're pretty much better off not watching or reading news , if something is really important people will tell you about it. That's how I roll , news is just designed to keep everyone afraid and buying shit that is said to protect us. When's the last time you heard anything good on the news? You never hear about firemen saving a building full of children from a fire , but you will sure as hell hear if those kids are burnt to a crisp
 
Question: Those completely 100% natural oil spills that happen... y'know, the ones where oil just pisses out of the earth with no involvement of mankind. How severe do they get?
 
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