Breakdownish-deathcore with keys - WIP

[Folkrav]

It's from my own band, Bloodshed by reality. The song, 24, is pretty short (2 minutes), and vocals hasn't been mixed in yet. No automation done at all, the mix itself took around a hour, what was long is to do all the routing for my plugins, or just figuring HOW THE HELL I could do what I wanted to do, as I had not used Logic in AGES (long story short, I had a Macbook with Logic for mixing on the road, then sold it, then now have a new Mac).

Pretty basic song (pretty much our most basic one, kind of the "filler" of the EP lol), so don't expect anything TOO awesome music-wise. I kinda like the keyboard blast-beat thing, but heh, my taste.

I just want some pointers, I have some time limitations (we have to give one song to someone before 12th of july, and the rest of the band wants to hear all the songs before choosing), but if I have enough feedback fast enough, I'll probably be able to change a couple of things.
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EDIT JUNE 28 :
I added another song, Obliterated Centuries, with tweaked mix.

24
June 17
old mix
June 23
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6505151/CalltoArms/Bloodshed by Reality/24-newmix.mp3
June 23 (Fix)
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6505151/CalltoArms/Bloodshed by Reality/24-newmix2.mp3
June 28
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6505151/CalltoArms/Bloodshed by Reality/24-newmix3.mp3 - starts at 10 seconds

Obliterated Centuries
June 28 - TWEAKED MIX (compared to 24-newmix3.mp3), no vox and tom gate issue.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6505151/CalltoArms/Bloodshed by Reality/obliterated-newmix3.mp3
June 29 - Vocals (no automation) - LATEST
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6505151/CalltoArms/Bloodshed by Reality/obliterated-newmix4.mp3

 

[Folkrav]

No one? Thanks in advance.

 

[Redline4]

Drums are not enough upfront compared to guitars. Kick is maybe a little loud. Snare is really buried and the mix could be a tad ''brighter'' but it's up to taste I think. Keys section is cool btw.

 

[oroinvictus]

The drums definitely get buried easily under everything else, especially the snare. The right guitar sounds a lot fizzier and harsher than the left guitar to my ears, sounds like too much gain and comp.

 

[Folkrav]

I feel like the buried drums is really a guitar issue, they're pretty much too upfront and fizzy. I feel like my mastering is really bad and making everything sound scooped and fizzy :/ Have issues brightening my mix.

 

[Folkrav]

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6505151/CalltoArms/Bloodshed by Reality/24-newmix.mp3

Here's a new one, with vocals. Some editing still has to be done (word tails not matching, etc.), but this is pretty much it. Still having issues on what I should do else with those vocals.

 

[Redline4]

Still sounds really muffled, kick and snare are buried and vocals are too loud IMO. It feels like there's no presence at all in the guitars :/

 

[AntonioPetrole]

the whole mix sounds really muffled. Not enough presence. I LOVE the writing though. Let us know when its done

 

[Folkrav]

I'm really struggling to get how the hell the kick and snare are muffled, everywhere I listen to the mix I hear them popping out so fucking much, and pretty much no guitars at all. I will try to fix the guitars, probably will have to boost the highs and cut the 4kHz fizz.

 

[oroinvictus]

The drums are sitting between the guitars, and I dunno how I feel about that, but if that's what you were going for then stick with it. The guitars definitely need a high-end boost, and the drums could stand to come up a bit.

 

[Folkrav]

I've brought down the guitars but boosted the high-end and I feel like they sit in the mix better now. Brought up a little bit the snare and everything seems more in place now. Give me your opinion!

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6505151/CalltoArms/Bloodshed by Reality/24-newmix2.mp3

 

[Redline4]

Kick is now over-powering the mix, still really muddy. I don't know, try a different chain for guitars and maybe another sample for the kick..

 

[Folkrav]

Tried what you said. Sounds better. Well, I think.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6505151/CalltoArms/Bloodshed by Reality/24-newmix3.mp3

 

[Redline4]

Listening through headphones atm but it seems better. There's something going on with the right guitar, it sounds really fizzy or maybe that's the bass's grind that is too loud. Cannot put my finger on it though.

 

[Folkrav]

Now that you told me I hear it too, gonna do something about it.

 

[Redline4]

Bass distorsion is actually really loud IMO. Du you have like two bass tracks hard panned ? Btw lead guitar and vocals sound really good.

 

[Folkrav]

Vocals were pretty much "less-is-more" - simple EQ and limited to death. For bass track, no, I have 2 but centered... Bass overall is pretty loud, I'll probably bring down disto a bit.

 

[Redline4]

What kind of mix are you aiming for, do you have any reference?

 

[Folkrav]

Honestly, this mix is currently far from being any close to any reference I might have had during the mixing process XD I'm just aiming at FINISHING THIS SHIT god damn.

 

[Redline4]

Hahaha. I know, damn fans that don't understand mixing takes time.