Bringing your own soundman to a show

Executioner213

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I know a lot of you talk about doing this. How do you pull it off? Are venues and shit ok with this usually? Does you bring extra shit with you to make sure you know what you have every time? Looking for all bit of insight on this. Truth be told, I'd rather have in-ears anyways...

Please 'splain. :kickass:
 
Some house sound guys are dumb about it but any decent venue is used to it. It is always a good idea to advance the show and let them know you'll have a sound guy, what his requirements are and what if any patching he'll want to be able to do.
 
Personally speaking I don't have any problems at all with bands bringing their own engineers as long as it doesn't interfere with the way I'm running my shows (dudes taking forever to setup and check etc). I'm used to it because most touring acts will bring their own engineer. I figure if they know the band's music better than I do then they will probably do a better job mixing if they know anything about running sound (I have only thrown one dude off the console before because he had no fucking clue what was going on, I essentially mixed the show for him).

If you are not the headliner and it is not your show don't expect a soundcheck or any huge addition to the input list that the house guy already has run, or for your engineer to be allowed to change the house graphic EQ. Just make it as easy for the house guy as possible, have your dude help him out on stage, be nice, and you shouldn't have any problems.

The only places where I've been told I wasn't allowed to mix were small bars with tiny systems and owners who "only let their engineer" mix on the system to "prevent damage." Places that where touring acts will never, ever play. One was a christian club that is now closed, the other was some empty, hole in the wall bar in Chicago.
 
Only idiots do that anyway. If I was you I would find a panel that locks that goes over the graphic so nobody fucking touches it.

I really have my system dialed in, but most touring engineers still like to flatten it and make their own graphic from scratch. I don't know if it's an ego thing or what.
 
I really have my system dialed in, but most touring engineers still like to flatten it and make their own graphic from scratch. I don't know if it's an ego thing or what.
I think it's habit. For every venue with a sound guy that has really spent time dialing in his system there are 100 where someone used the eq as a volume control or just left the previous touring guys settings. I've also discovered more than once that the FOH eq wasn't even wired in or half of it didn't work.
 
I think it's habit. For every venue with a sound guy that has really spent time dialing in his system there are 100 where someone used the eq as a volume control or just left the previous touring guys settings. I've also discovered more than once that the FOH eq wasn't even wired in or half of it didn't work.

Yep, good call man.