A "novel" incoming, do not try to read it if very impatient and having weak nerves
I just hate people that blindly praise anything a band does, even if it clearly sucks. It's the Catamenia forum, not the Cavalcade forum.
... There aren't such ppl in the forum. In case you mean me, cuz I'm the one who "defends" Cata's music the most - you're wrong. I don't do anything blindly and wouldn't praise smth that I dislike. For your information, I do like better the earlier Cata stuff and I've written it in the forum aswell, however I also like the newer stuff, simply because I enjoy a wide range of metal and don't stick to 1 or 2 genres. My top fav Cata albums are all from the earlier years (Morning Crimson, Eskhata and ChaosBorn) but there's good music in all the 9 albums. Liking different stuff doesn't make me that kind of person that you're writing about. Another detail, which you wouldn't know though, is that I was brave enough to actually talk to some of the guys about what bothered me and I disliked on the raw mix version of Cavalcade - another reason why they trust me - cuz I'm honest with them, so yeah, definitely not praising anything blindly. Besides, just because You think smth sucks that doesn't mean it's true for everyone.
It's Cata's forum, yes, but the thread that caused all the fuss was about Cavalcade, which was being continuously turned into a thread about The Time Unchained, comparing smth that didn't even exist yet to the 8th album, turning every single post about anything else back to the VIII-TTU release and spitting on it, again and again, and again, and AGAIN
. Now that was very inappropriate and quite an ugly situation, to be honest, so naturally - consequences followed. It's ok for ppl to express their opinion, even if it's negative but within some limits... Say it once or twice, ok, but don't tread on those musicians over and over again, damn it. They are ppl too, you know... How would you feel if you're being continuously smashed by someone because of the music that you've created, music, which feels good to you and you've put tons of time, energy and heart into it? Like I said, it's ok to express your negative opinion but not to push it on and on, and on... and on.
Just thinking about the reaction on Cavalcade... Do you remember, or if not, do you know how Eskhata was accepted when it came out? There were numerous negative opinions back then aswell. It's hard to believe cuz the album is a freakin masterpiece imo but, it was so different, much milder and much more melodic, so there were rougher black metal fans who actually disapproved it but You like it, don't You, and I adore it
It still is the one and only album which is different from all the rest. If you look at ppl's opinions nowadays - many of them would say it's their most fav Cata album, or one of Cata's best, the original reaction though wasn't exactly like that. The Time Unchained also brought negative opinions by some ppl and was disapproved, but there are fans who enjoy it, in this number me too and You aswell.
To be clear - I'm not comparing the 3 albums (they can't be compared rly), just comparing the reaction they brought.
So, as long as there is someone who still likes smth, THAT thing isn't a failure and doesn't "clearly suck". What might be bad for you, is good for someone else. Like they say, there are passengers for every train
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