Chimaira's Coming Alive live album

[Djabthrash]

free full streaming here :

http://music.aol.com/new-releases-full-cds/#/4

http://www.metalsucks.net/2010/07/20/stream-chimairas-alive/

Just started listening to it 10 minutes ago but sounds killer so far.

Don't know how it has been "produced" (remix, reamping, overdubbing...) but it slays.

I wouldn't mind some info on the production (esp. guitar tone).

p.s: having sampled intro songs before starting the set is whack (Chimaira does that... Slipknot too)... (unless it's something you can hardly recreate live... like orchestra/acoustic stuff for instance)... i hate when bands do this... and i also hate it when they have sampled vocals during choruses (ex : Slipknot on Duality)
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p.s 2 : i also hate it when bands slow down some parts in the middle of the song live... not for an artistic purpose but more like the drummer can't keep up with the tempo... good example is on "Powertrip" on this live album, toward the end when there is the lead part with fast double bass

p.s 3 : i didn't like "the infection" album much but in a live setting the songs sound better IMO, this dark/heavy/sludgy/proggy stuff makes a good alternative to the rest of the songs from the other albums, which sound more straight forward/immediately catchy IMO.

 

[JayB]

Yeah the infection IMO was their worst album , no energy to it. Impossibility is a great ass kicking soundtrack , whereas the infection is a great falling asleep soundtrack

 

[Djabthrash]

Yeah the infection IMO was their worst album , no energy to it. Impossibility is a great ass kicking soundtrack , whereas the infection is a great falling asleep soundtrack

yeah i thought the same thing when i heard the album, but now i start to enjoy the songs more when they're part of their live set list.

 

[digitalmikey]

yeah i thought the same thing when i heard the album, but now i start to enjoy the songs more when they're part of their live set list.

Agreed. When the songs are compiled like they are for this live album they sound much better. However, The Infection got boring pretty quick. They are a pretty diverse band in my opinion though. Each album sounds different but still maintain their overall sound.

 

[Djabthrash]

Listening to this, i really dig the guitar tone. I prefer it to the tone they got on their recent albums (but then again the whole mix is different ).

EDIT : and Rob Arnold KILLS IT on leads !!!

 

[Morgan C]

Ugh, this sounds good? The drums sound effing awful, considering they're samples. And the drummer as a whole is just.. not good enough. I'm listening to Resurrection and he speeds up whenever he can play the bit properly, and otherwise he's constantly slowing down (especially on blast beats). The guitars are tight as fuck and the drummer is all over the place... I honestly haven't heard a drummer this bad in a decently famous band.. in a long time. Plus whenever he does double kick it changes to a sample thats been highpassed at like 500hz. What gives?!

edit: holy shit, just heard some 'singing'.
edit2: in case it seems like I hate the band, I love 'Resurrection'. This, however, I don't.

 

[Djabthrash]

"i want it high like fuckin' Lebron James"

 

[Djabthrash]

Ugh, this sounds good? The drums sound effing awful, considering they're samples. And the drummer as a whole is just.. not good enough. I'm listening to Resurrection and he speeds up whenever he can play the bit properly, and otherwise he's constantly slowing down (especially on blast beats). The guitars are tight as fuck and the drummer is all over the place... I honestly haven't heard a drummer this bad in a decently famous band.. in a long time.

I don't mind the drums sound really... even if they sound a bit cheap on their own (esp. the kick). But yeah i see what you mean with the drums timing issues... I noticed it on the first few songs but didn't pay attention after that. He's not there yet but his drumming has improved a lot over the years though (more diverse and fine, but he still needs to get tighter though).

I agree with the guitars, they sound awesome.

Plus whenever he does double kick it changes to a sample thats been highpassed at like 500hz. What gives?!

I noticed that on some records, like the latest Dying Fetus one... Is that normal/common ? I don't like that much either.
Is this really another sample being played or just some processing (multiband compression ?) /automation ?

 

[Djabthrash]

By the way i just realized that Mark Hunter's regular screaming vocals sound a lot like Vision Of Disorder/Bloodsimple's Tim Williams (but not as amazing though). Not to mention the Layne Staley-like clean vocals he does sometimes also (Tim Williams does that too, in his own way).

 

[GeertSamuel]

First listen was very dissapointing. And yes, Andols is all over the place. The live show on their first DVD was tighter as I can remember.

The thing I actually dig about this is the "live"-ness. They didn't kill it with fixing a bunch of shit.
While there is enough to be positive about the tightness of the drums stand negativelly out the most in some parts.

Still I dig Chimaira.

 

[JayB]

Yeah I agree this live shit sounds pretty bad. All I hear is Mark and that shitty high passed kick lol

 

[AshesOfTheWake]

No way was The Infection their wort album.

 

[JayB]

No way was The Infection their wort album.

Maybe not , but it was definitely their worst.

 

[GeertSamuel]

I'm digging The Infection. It's "groovy" metal..

 

[Benny H]

Just stole the track Resurrection to check out...

Umm.. this is what a real drummer/band sounds like. It's not bad at all.

This is what happens when the majority of music is either programmed or edited to... well the exact same place on the grid that programmed drums would be.
Take the greatest drummer with the greatest timing and precision ever and you will still notice a contrast compared to mechanically perfect timing.

Ya gotta realize that which is the standard now is actually un-realistic.

 

[Djabthrash]

Just stole the track Resurrection to check out...

Umm.. this is what a real drummer/band sounds like. It's not bad at all.

This is what happens when the majority of music is either programmed or edited to... well the exact same place on the grid that programmed drums would be.
Take the greatest drummer with the greatest timing and precision ever and you will still notice a contrast compared to mechanically perfect timing.

Ya gotta realize that which is the standard now is actually un-realistic.

i disagree with you

get Kevin Talley or Derek Roddy or *insert solid as fuck extreme metal drummer here* here and they wouldn't fuck up (means slow down) on those fast parts

still, apart from a few parts here and there this "slowing down" thing didn't distract me that much... it only happens in a really annoying/obvious way on like 40 seconds off this entire live album...

 

[NicholasDWolfwood]

It's surprising to see how sloppy Anders is in parts, considering he's a VERY capable studio drummer and among the best in the metalcore/whatever genre. As someone else pointed out, the live show they had on their first DVD was way tighter. The kick sample is also kinda irritating.

But otherwise, the guitar tones are absolutely amazing and Rob and Matt are both very tight no matter what they're playing. Mark's vocals sound very good on here. I dislike how Chris's vocals are sometimes buried underneath Mark's effected vocals, though (ex. Resurrection.)

Personal favorite has to be either Six or The Flame. Both are amazing songs on record but live, they're even better.

 

[joeymusicguy]

i wanna know how cymbals sound that good in a live situation

 

[roy22341]

The best album of theirs in my opinion was the self-titled album with Kevin Talley - his drumming fit their style so much better. Andols seems to have gotten lazy.

 

[GarethSE]

Sounds like a live album to me
A little dirty, a little chaotic, a little messy, energetic and passionate rather than being an exercise in paying too much attention to small details.

Sounds tight to me, you guys are weird.