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[Hawng]

I think John Edwards was from South Carolina, not Tennessee. Tennessee doesnt put many democrats in office ( besides gore that was our mistake. ) Tennessee is usually good ole republican, because TN kicks ass. Go Vols!

My mistake.......hes from North carolina.................but still you would have thought they would have voted for him................

 

[Sepsis]

I hope the Democrats run Zell Miller in '08
Perhaps Condy Rice will run for president... Wouldn't it be ironic if the party that's characterized as angry, racist, rich white males puts the first african american (I hate to say that ) and woman into office, at the SAME TIME?!
God bless,
Sepsis

 

[johnnieCzech]

besides Hillary is a militant member of the GayKK

Is she?

 

[Hawng]

I am not trying to sucked into simple mindeness but hey you guys even prior to the elections said that you would be bitching at everything Kerry did if elected president...

but dude.................he hasnt done anything yet.......and it was everything fucked up that he did

 

[T_man357]

AWESOME POST!!!

If we had a female president other countrys like Saudi Arabia,Iran ect ect would veiw that as our great weakness, and try to take advantage of it,. Dude, Bush won by 3 million votes it was close but obviously there were more people in favor of having Bush in office.So how was America muzzled? people came out and voted in record numbers, everyone had a say......Kerry took it like a man ........why cant you?

why? why does he want to make shit harder for our country? Well good luck to him ,cause seeing how Democrats are the minority he will probley have a hard time getting his shit past the republicans.......................

 

[Scurvy]

I have no interest in Hillary Clinton but I'm suprised at you conservative types suggesting a women leader would be a weakness. Margaret Thatcher was a legendary conservative Prime Minister in the UK (not for good reasons in my opinion) but nonetheless, she was hardly weak. In fact, she was known as the Iron Lady for good reason.
I understand Hillary may be a different type of personality but just thought I'd bring that up if we're talking about female leaders in general.

 

[Hawng]

I have no interest in Hillary Clinton but I'm suprised at you conservative types suggesting a women leader would be a weakness. Margaret Thatcher was a legendary conservative Prime Minister in the UK (not for good reasons in my opinion) but nonetheless, she was hardly weak. In fact, she was known as the Iron Lady for good reason.
I understand Hillary may be a different type of personality but just thought I'd bring that up if we're talking about female leaders in general.

Never said she was weak, I said she would be viewed as a weakness, and by that some of these little countrys would get a little bolder, and try to get shit over on her,............ Im not saying they would get over on her, cause she looks like she would be one hell of a bitch if you got on her bad side. But alot of the countrys in the Middle east still oppress women and I dont think they would deal with her.............................

 

[MyHatred]

If we had a female president other countrys like Saudi Arabia,Iran ect ect would veiw that as our great weakness, and try to take advantage of it,. Dude, Bush won by 3 million votes it was close but obviously there were more people in favor of having Bush in office.So how was America muzzled? people came out and voted in record numbers, everyone had a say......Kerry took it like a man ........why cant you?

why? why does he want to make shit harder for our country? Well good luck to him ,cause seeing how Democrats are the minority he will probley have a hard time getting his shit past the republicans.......................

Why would you want to set there and be complacent and not question everything that the president does??? I would still question a democrat President..It is everyones natural right to question the President and if you don't think that this country is not going to regress back 20 years then you are dead wrong. Roe vs. Wade is going to be overturned, Bush made that perfectly clear that it is on his agenda at the debates. Do you seriously want to go to college if you lose your job???? Bush made the asinine comment that if people lose their job then they should go to school..The problem with that is people have mortgages, kids, ect., ect.,. These pell grants that he kept talking about to put people through college will not even cover a fraction of school costs....How do I know because I used them to help get my economics degree....How much do pell grants give you for the year? Hmmmm about 1,000 to 2,000 dolllars. How much does just 2 classes at MSU cost??, about 1,500 2,000 dollars and that is just 2 classes...How is that going to get me through school for the year? How am I going to live when I have a house payment and all the other bills that we all have. Also, lets face it some people have no desire to go to college or are just not made for school..I am going back to school right now and I am getting a degree in political science..My goal is to be state senator by the age of 35 and to keep going up the political ladder( I have the resources, connections and the strong will to do so)....I may be only 24 but the politcal connections that I have already would even make you go "Daaaamn" . Also as far as Hillary being president....IT WILL NOT HAPPEN. I was at the State of Michigan's press conference after Kerry conceded with the governor and Michigan's U.S. senators and yes, you guys are right us(the Dems) are making a plan already, and it does not involve Hillary being President....It just will not happen. As far as a black president goes, I can say that if Borak(sic?) Obama does well in his tenure as a U.S. senator then that is who they will be looking towards as a possible candidate.

You guys are also right in thinking that the nation will be divided...That has always been the way it is. Hence the reason for 2 parties. As far as Bush getting the popular vote, you are absolutely right. The thing is that Bush only won by 3 percent. That is why I am saying that for every Bush suppporter there is another person who doesn't spport him. In a nation of 300,000,000 people you are foolish if you dont think that there isn't. 3,000,000 people is just a drop in the bucket with all things considered.. Finally and most importantly, over 55 million Americans voted for the candidate dubbed "The #1 Liberal in the Senate." That's more than the total number of voters who voted for either Reagan, Bush I, Clinton or Gore. Again, more people voted for Kerry than Reagan. It was not a landslide defeat in the least so that is what I am saying. Hey, I can be angry, upset and bitter....Can't I? I would expect you guys to be if it went the other way. I think that the U.S. is in a serious dilemma...We do need allies. To think that we don't is just arrogant. Who is to say that if we piss off alot of other countries that they will not team up and bring a war here..If the world was to join forces against the U.S. then we would be screwed and to not think so is wrong. Don't get me wrong we are the strongest in the world...But are we strong enough to take on the rest of the world if the rest of the world decides to attack us?

P.S. Try not to take offense to what I am saying...I have zero beef with you guys, quite the opposite actually. You guys are all cool in my book and I hope that T-Man, Prime and I are actually able to hang out when I go to Boston. I am just expressing my point of view and how I see things.

 

[johnnieCzech]

Why would you want to set there and be complacent and not question everything that the president does??? I would still question a democrat President..It is everyones natural right to question the President and if you don't think that this country is not going to regress back 20 years then you are dead wrong. Roe vs. Wade is going to be overturned, Bush made that perfectly clear that it is on his agenda at the debates. Do you seriously want to go to college if you lose your job???? Bush made the asinine comment that if people lose their job then they should go to school..The problem with that is people have mortgages, kids, ect., ect.,. These pell grants that he kept talking about to put people through college will not even cover a fraction of school costs....How do I know because I used them to help get my economics degree....How much do pell grants give you for the year? Hmmmm about 1,000 to 2,000 dolllars. How much does just 2 classes at MSU cost??, about 1,500 2,000 dollars and that is just 2 classes...How is that going to get me through school for the year? How am I going to live when I have a house payment and all the other bills that we all have. Also, lets face it some people have no desire to go to college or are just not made for school..I am going back to school right now and I am getting a degree in political science..My goal is to be state senator by the age of 35 and to keep going up the political ladder( I have the resources, connections and the strong will to do so)....I may be only 24 but the politcal connections that I have already would even make you go "Daaaamn" . Also as far as Hillary being president....IT WILL NOT HAPPEN. I was at the State of Michigan's press conference after Kerry conceded with the governor and Michigan's U.S. senators and yes, you guys are right us(the Dems) are making a plan already, and it does not involve Hillary being President....It just will not happen. As far as a black president goes, I can say that if Borak(sic?) Obama does well in his tenure as a U.S. senator then that is who they will be looking towards as a possible candidate.

You guys are also right in thinking that the nation will be divided...That has always been the way it is. Hence the reason for 2 parties. As far as Bush getting the popular vote, you are absolutely right. The thing is that Bush only won by 3 percent. That is why I am saying that for every Bush suppporter there is another person who doesn't spport him. In a nation of 300,000,000 people you are foolish if you dont think that there isn't. 3,000,000 people is just a drop in the bucket with all things considered.. Finally and most importantly, over 55 million Americans voted for the candidate dubbed "The #1 Liberal in the Senate." That's more than the total number of voters who voted for either Reagan, Bush I, Clinton or Gore. Again, more people voted for Kerry than Reagan. It was not a landslide defeat in the least so that is what I am saying. Hey, I can be angry, upset and bitter....Can't I? I would expect you guys to be if it went the other way. I think that the U.S. is in a serious dilemma...We do need allies. To think that we don't is just arrogant. Who is to say that if we piss off alot of other countries that they will not team up and bring a war here..If the world was to join forces against the U.S. then we would be screwed and to not think so is wrong. Don't get me wrong we are the strongest in the world...But are we strong enough to take on the rest of the world if the rest of the world decides to attack us?

P.S. Try not to take offense to what I am saying...I have zero beef with you guys, quite the opposite actually. You guys are all cool in my book and I hope that T-Man, Prime and I are actually able to hang out when I go to Boston. I am just expressing my point of view and how I see things.

I think it would be pretty cool for USA to have a blast beatin´Prez sometime in 2030...

 

[T_man357]

I just didn't want to see you get all worked up over simple shit
But you don't seem to mind....So it's not a problem for me..

Run with it dude!!

 

[MyHatred]

I think it would be pretty cool for USA to have a blast beatin´Prez sometime in 2030...

Huh? I don't follow Johnnyboy

 

[MyHatred]

I just didn't want to see you get all worked up over simple shit
But you don't seem to mind....So it's not a problem for me..

Run with it dude!!

Hey I just got to vent for a little while...So dont mind me..

 

[johnnieCzech]

Huh? I don't follow Johnnyboy

Just hittin´at your "climbing up the political ladder"

 

[MyHatred]

OHHHHH hell no... I do not have any aspiration to be president. I would like to be Governor of Michigan though( in the distant future).

 

[johnnieCzech]

OHHHHH hell no... I do not have any aspiration to be president. I would like to be Governor of Michigan though( in the distant future).

Well maybe in the distant future I´ll be watching news and tell my snotty brats: "Hey, I once exchanged knowledge of the drum pedals and shit with this guy on the internet!"

 

[Hawng]

I would expect you guys to be if it went the other way. I think that the U.S. is in a serious dilemma...We do need allies. To think that we don't is just arrogant. Who is to say that if we piss off alot of other countries that they will not team up and bring a war here..If the world was to join forces against the U.S. then we would be screwed and to not think so is wrong. Don't get me wrong we are the strongest in the world...But are we strong enough to take on the rest of the world if the rest of the world decides to attack us?

Austrailia, japan, greece, turkey, Italy, england,canada,mexico, India, pakastan,Isreal, Saudi Arabia, Poland, Czech republic (and thats off the top of my head)are our allies............we try to be freinds with everyone, and the only reason the French and the Russians, are giving us a hard time is because they got caught with there hands in the cookie jar, you know .....the oil for food scandle..........(which no one wants to talk about)...and it cost them Billions of dollars....they obviously werent thinking about the United Nations resolutions..........(or more than likely didnt care) and traded ILLEAGALY with Iraq.........fuck them ....they made there beds and now they have to sleep in them.and if you think that all this shit is going to make the world go to war with us, (Us being the country that half the countrys in the world depend on for aid one way or another) Ill tell you this, Russia dont have the money to start a war with us, France.........hahaha,............. right....(did you hear about the new french tanks? they have one gear forward and 6 gears in reverse) Germany should know better after last time. China would have a chance but their economy isnt very good either, So what other country would have the nuts to start with us?

 

[johnnieCzech]

Why is that off the top of your head, Old School? Just a question.

 

[Hawng]

Why is that off the top of your head, Old School? Just a question.

Bcause since we started talking(arguing) about all this shit that has been happening with the war and everything ,I have been reading up on everything I can find about the war and american policys, I know there are alot of countrys in the world that have the same stance as america on the war on terror and that list is just a fraction.
when I say "off the top of my head " I mean those are the ones I can think of now..............without having to look it up

 

[johnnieCzech]

Bcause since we started talking(arguing) about all this shit that has been happening with the war and everything ,I have been reading up on everything I can find about the war and american policys, I know there are alot of countrys in the world that have the same stance as america on the war on terror and that list is just a fraction.
when I say "off the top of my head " I mean those are the ones I can think of now..............without having to look it up

Oh I see! I just didn´t happen to understand this idiom. Thanx, now I feel even smarter