Cubas Groupchannel

[Emdprodukt]

okay, so I read around here it makes alot of sense to have busses to control more then one track at the same time in cubse. so let's talk about guitars:

I got 8 tracks for the guitar and I want them all to have a C4 on it with the same setting. So I make up a groupchannel for it so I don't have to put the c4 on every single track. so far so good.

but now the signal is twice as loud. there is the unprocessed guitar track and it appears again in the groupchannel (or bus or whatever you like to call it). does that mean I get one processed and one unprocessed sound from the guitar? Or will it just give me the processed one from the groupchannel?

What I mean is: In the end I just want a processed one.

ps.

I don't believe I even made spellingmistakes in the topic-name.

 

[Downtime]

It´s just the processed signal, that comes out of your group-tracks.

 

[Emdprodukt]

I'm really confused about the volume-fader of the groupchannel. Let's say I turn the volume of my guitar-group-channel down I just got my unprocessed signal left?

 

[smy1]

No. This is how it goes:

Default:
Guitar 1 > Master Out
Guitar 2 > Master Out
Guitar 3 > Master Out
Guitar 4 > Master Out

If you group the guitars it goes like this

Guitar 1 > Guitar Group > Master Out
Guitar 2 > Guitar Group > Master Out
Guitar 3 > Guitar Group > Master Out
Guitar 4 > Guitar Group > Master Out

You route the single channel to the group and the group to wherever (in my example to the 2bus/master fader). If you pull down the group channel, then you should hear nothing. If you pull down the single faders a bit, your signal in the guitar group should get lower.

Think of it as a cable going out from your single channels. It can either go directly into the master or into the group channel first and then from there to the master.

There are tons of variations on this, because you can route the group channel to another group channel if you want ... but I won't get into this.

 

[Emdprodukt]

okay now I got it, thank you alot!

 

[BloodyMurderKaraoke]

You have to set your send as "Pre-Fader". There is a little icon that looks like a Square and a cross side by side on the send area of your channel control. If you click it, it will turn orange. Orange is pre-fader, which means that you can bring your channel fader all the way down and not affect the send level.

Change all 8 guitars to be pre-fader and then take all their faders down. In order to turn down any guitars in the group channel, you have to adjust your send amount.

Hope this makes sense.

Thanks

 

[smy1]

You have to set your send as "Pre-Fader". There is a little icon that looks like a Square and a cross side by side on the send area of your channel control. If you click it, it will turn orange. Orange is pre-fader, which means that you can bring your channel fader all the way down and not affect the send level.

Change all 8 guitars to be pre-fader and then take all their faders down. In order to turn down any guitars in the group channel, you have to adjust your send amount.

Hope this makes sense.

Thanks

We are not talking about Aux Sends and Aux Returns, but about bussing or group channels. In Cubase that is a difference.

 

[BloodyMurderKaraoke]

Now I feel lost. If you create a group channel in Cubase, it shows up in the sends list. Routing any audio to the channel is indeed a send, right? He's sending his guitars post fader and hearing both the original unprocessed sound (Track) and the processed sound as well (group channel). He only wants to hear the processed signal, which means he needs to take the originals out of the mix completely.

I'm confused now

 

[smy1]

Nope. There are two different ways of doing it:

1) Add FX Channel = adding an Aux Send and Return. That will show up in the channel inspector window and you can choose the amount of signal to be sent as well as the pre/post-fader option.

2) Add Group Channel = adding a Group Channel (duh!). This will show up in the "routing choice" ABOVE each channel (you probably have routing options elsewhere, but I am not sitting in my studio right now, so I don't remember exactly where). This box usually reads Master Out or Stereo Out or whatever you named your 2bus. If you click that, you can select the group channel you just made and send ALL your audio there.

If you do 1), then you are right, if you do 2) then my explanation a few posts above applies.

Hope this clears it up?

 

[BloodyMurderKaraoke]

Yeah I understand now, all tracks are normally routed to the Stereo 1+2 Master Out, or something close, but I can have individual tracks routed to output to the group. Thanks for clearing that up!