De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas

The nonsense surrounding the album and parties involved has no bearing on my enjoyment of the album on any conscious level, and I didn't even have a clue what Metal was in 1994.
 
I heard the album before I heard about the controversy, and liked it then. I really don't think it has anything to do with my enjoyment of the album, and find that argument to be a rather weak attempt of people to justify their not liking it.
 
I heard this album for the first time last winter. It was included in my very first Black Metal haul along with Immortal, Darkthrone, Enslaved, Satyricon, Kvist, and Ulver. I remember ordering them all very well, and to be honest I didn't like DMDS that much at the time, but at the time I didn't really understand Black Metal. That was with knowing all about the controversy. It did not add or detract from the album for me. Fast forward a bit and after listening to a fair share of black metal I can now say I love DMDS. It is a great album controversy or not.
 
I wouldn't say the 'controvery' ever turned me away from the album, but it does make me want to hate all the people who have made such a big hype out of it and turned it in to the central piece of BM 'lore' that one is expected to have some pathetic opinion over.

It doesn't even cross my mind when listening to the album though, and I don't even agree that it adds to the "subconscious evilness" of the music either. It's a zero factor for me; I simply hear brilliant aggressive riffs, violent raw rhythms, a uniquely cold vocal style, and exceptionally good metal songwriting.
 
I can't stress enough how odd I find it that people commit any time/thought whatsoever to trying to discern how or why others enjoy certain bands. Hate it all you want, but the moment you start babbling on with shit about the people who do enjoy it, you've crossed a line into utter foolishness.
 
i would go dig up some quote where you* bash people listening to pop music because they're stupid and lazy, but i'm lazy











*everybody, and justifiably so
 
Hate it all you want...
I don't hate it. I don't care enough to hate it.

...but the moment you start babbling on with shit about the people who do enjoy it, you've crossed a line into utter foolishness.
Let me clarify a bit. To your point, I could care less why people like it. In my original post, I was merely wondering aloud if the controversy plays into how people view the disc. Whether it does or doesn't, has no impact on my own view of the disc. In my latest post, I was merely giving Necuratul a bit of shit.

Zod
 
That's not my argument for not liking it. My argument for not liking it is that it's utter crap. The "controversy" is my argument for people liking it.

Zod

...Which is the same thing. "These people like X so much because Y, but I am intelligent enough to realize that Y is external to X and so I, in my glorious, intelligent nature, am able to discern the true quality of X without the biased influence of Y, which is, in fact, shit."
 
...Which is the same thing. "These people like X so much because Y, but I am intelligent enough to realize that Y is external to X and so I, in my glorious, intelligent nature, am able to discern the true quality of X without the biased influence of Y, which is, in fact, shit."

Thats what I'm talking about!!
 
...Which is the same thing. "These people like X so much because Y, but I am intelligent enough to realize that Y is external to X and so I, in my glorious, intelligent nature, am able to discern the true quality of X without the biased influence of Y, which is, in fact, shit."
I never made any claim, implied or otherwise, that my ability to separate X and Y, as it pertains to DMDS, has anything to do with intelligence. Rather, I very specifically said, someone who listens to this disc in 2007, is far removed from the events that surrounded it. I'd say that's a rather fair assessment.

Additionally, to suggest that there's no correlation between X and Y, and that non-music factors never color how people perceive music, is rather naive.

Zod