Yeah, upon reading the bio of Soul Embraced they kept throwing the term "death metal" in there..and I was just floored that they would call them that..because upon hearing their "immune" album I heard no death metal at all...then I heard some of the older stuff off the first disc and the death element was definitely there...too bad they watered it down...I do actually like Living Sacrifice and Zao alot though..I actually saw Extol the night of Living Sacrifices last show in their hometown of Little Rock...needless to say...Extol fucking mopped the floor...