define the genre "metal"...

[KoichCPA]

Songwriting is too subjective for that claim to be made about, thus, she still has no idea.

 

[TRrEiTxIxRiE DTrash]

Why are you attacking me? All I said is that she doesn't have "no idea".

 

[Goreripper]

I didn't say that. I said I think she has an idea of what she's talking about. I know where she's coming from...

I know where she's coming from also, and I agree in principle, but I still think it was a big call to make that today's bands aren't talented. It made her argument sound weak.

 

[TRrEiTxIxRiE DTrash]

Yeah and all I said was that she doesn't have "no idea" because I know where she's coming from with her overall argument... whereas Josh took that one line out of the context of what she was trying to get across.

 

[KoichCPA]

If someone makes a statement as moronic as that, I focus on it on the basis that it makes them an idiot and makes their whole arguement completly invalid.

 

[KoichCPA]

Also, I understand where you are coming from, a place of self delusion and mindless lamentation of the past.

If you keep this up, I also know where you will be going, to a psychiatric ward.

 

[TRrEiTxIxRiE DTrash]

The word "talent" encompasses alot more than skill & technical ability too though remember, so its not really a moronic statement...

 

[KoichCPA]

It is, it's too subjective for it to be correct.

 

[TRrEiTxIxRiE DTrash]

If it's too subjective for it to be correct, then it is also too subjective for it to be incorrect. Therefore it's not moronic, it's her opinion...

 

[KoichCPA]

...and her opinion is moronic, as is yours.

It's 2004 Trent, get over it.

 

[Kem]

Isn't what she meant was that the original 80's metal bands (i.e. the metal she likes) are way better than bands these days that try and do the same thing? I don't think she's trying to say it's better than ALL metal/music in general being made today, and if she does mean metal, then she did actually define what metal is to her, so in which case I'd be inclined to agree too. She's talking specifics, as in hard rock/metal (what she defines as metal anyway). It doesn't sound like some big sweeping generalisation to me at all, so what's the problem?

 

[The Amazer]

If it's too subjective for it to be correct, then it is also too subjective for it to be incorrect. Therefore it's not moronic, it's her opinion...

Josh, you always seem to put people in their place whenever you try (unnecessarily at times) but this time Trixxi's got a fucking good point.

 

[KoichCPA]

It doesn't sound like some big sweeping generalisation to me at all, so what's the problem?

I like arguing.

 

[KoichCPA]

Josh, you always seem to put people in their place whenever you try (unnecessarily at times) but this time Trixxi's got a fucking good point.

I know, hence my completely stumped arguement where I just insulted trent for shits and giggles

 

[Gavin]

To be metal it has to be played on pointy guitars

 

[TRrEiTxIxRiE DTrash]

 

[Winmar]

Indeed!

I bet Morticia's glad she came back, after this thread!

 

[Goreripper]

Kem's right. So is Josh. So is Trent and Chrissy. So am I. We are all metal, so how can we be wrong? We can be strong, we are fire and stone, and we all want to touch a rainbow. But singers and song can never change it alone, so we are calling you, calling youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu.

 

[Bucko]

Kem's right. So is Josh. So is Trent and Chrissy. So am I. We are all metal, so how can we be wrong? We can be strong, we are fire and stone, and we all want to touch a rainbow. But singers and song can never change it alone, so we are calling you, calling youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu.

What can I say that brought a tear to my Eye

 

[KoichCPA]

Kem's right. So is Josh. So is Trent and Chrissy. So am I. We are all metal, so how can we be wrong? We can be strong, we are fire and stone, and we all want to touch a rainbow. But singers and song can never change it alone, so we are calling you, calling youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu.

Can we have a big round of applause for Steve Ravic? Thankyou very much.