Did anyone see SJR in Columbus last night?? I guess Phil ain't invited back to the AR

TD

HAS INTEGRITY
I wasn't there, so this is all secondhand, and I am trying to get the whole story, but I guess he took some racist pot shots at the security guards and that the owner of the Al Rosa (shittiest club in the world mind you) doesn't want Phil back. I guess Dime and Vinnie got their of verbal insults too.
 
thats pretty fucked hey,such a great frontman he doesnt need to say that shit,he really needs to get off the hammer or whatever he is on,metal needs u phil!

its really sad because last time pantera toured here they played a crushing show and a few drunken comments are what people remember the show by.
 
by the way there was some news on a message board where i guy sent an email to pat the singer for nfp or whatever they end up calling the and he says the record will be out on elektra in january,anyone else heard any rumblings on the internet?,dime and vinnie are too good for there game to stay inactive for this amount of time!!
 
Phil was just fucked up and running his mouth, I'm not gonna hold that against him. As for Vinnie and Dime, the album comes out in January on Elektra, but you know it is just gonna sound like a cheap Pantera imitation. Hopefully once it bombs, and once SJR fade off back to someones garage they will realize that Pantera needs to be touring, not bastardized versions of it.
 
anthrax_moshing_maniac said:
Phil is a killer vocalist! i couldent care less if he racist! at least he is speaking his mind!
What?
You couldn't care less if he is a racist?
Thats fucked up in my opinion. I like Pantera and SJR and Down but I really don't want no hate propaganda at my concerts or in my music. Fuck That. If hes a racist then I would be done with him. I don't care how fucking great his music is. I'm not talking about hating "the man" of hating people on a personal level but to say things that would catorgize or put down and entire race then he could suck it. But since this is just net rumors I'll hold my judgement.

Also I think the new Dime and Vinny stuff could rock. I hold high hopes for it.
 
Cincy Vigilante said:
What?
You couldn't care less if he is a racist?
Thats fucked up in my opinion. I like Pantera and SJR and Down but I really don't want no hate propaganda at my concerts or in my music. Fuck That. If hes a racist then I would be done with him. I don't care how fucking great his music is. I'm not talking about hating "the man" of hating people on a personal level but to say things that would catorgize or put down and entire race then he could suck it. But since this is just net rumors I'll hold my judgement.

Also I think the new Dime and Vinny stuff could rock. I hold high hopes for it.

I don't pick my entertainers based on their beliefs, so I have to disagree. That is one of the problems with this milieu in which we are stuck - entertainers and role models/heroes have been blurred together. Are some athletes/entertainers good role models or heroes? Sure. Are they all? Hell no! Should they have to be? No. I like Elton John, but I don't like stomped on spiders. I like Johnny Depp, but I don't drugs. You like John Bush, but he doesn't like George Bush etc, etc, etc.
Also, I guess Phil was making comments on white kids acting all black, and how that was a disgrace, and the bouncers took offense. This is all rumor as well.
 
phil is a racist ass, he has blown out his vocals, he has chosen the worst of his bands to remain in. the hell with him!! there are tons of metal bands out there from all over that kick ass in all the various genres of metal that I have no time for a suck ass band like SJR.
 
TD said:
I don't pick my entertainers based on their beliefs, so I have to disagree. That is one of the problems with this milieu in which we are stuck - entertainers and role models/heroes have been blurred together. Are some athletes/entertainers good role models or heroes? Sure. Are they all? Hell no! Should they have to be? No. I like Elton John, but I don't like stomped on spiders. I like Johnny Depp, but I don't drugs. You like John Bush, but he doesn't like George Bush etc, etc, etc.
Also, I guess Phil was making comments on white kids acting all black, and how that was a disgrace, and the bouncers took offense. This is all rumor as well.

Good points.
However, I really don't think none of us, for the most part, pick our entertainers based on beliefs. But there are always exceptions and things that weigh our opinions. As great as a player as O.J was I now view him as a wife beating murderer not a hall of fame football player. My entertainers like my friends don't have to have the same views on things, but I could never be friends with the grand dragon of the Ku klux Klan no matter how much of a nice guy he is. Likewise if an entertainer has a view that goes against my core beliefs then I will disregard them. I don't care if person X is pro choice or anti-abortion but if person X goes out and kills doctors in clinics then I would have a problem.
 
i really dont think he is a rascist however he is a drug abuser and he cant handle his piss,its just so many people used to look up to phil and he had everyones respect,nowadays he comes across as a 2 can harry that talks nothing but shit
 
he is an idiot. He says seig heil all the time. He is a drunken idiot. He is exactly the type of person that gives metal it's idiotic image yet despite all the awesome metal bands out there, people get desparate and want to check out only pantera, SJR, or slayer as if they are only thing out there.