direct input

Hey, your link doesn't work. Check if it is set for 'public' access.

Consider recording direct without the pedal, seems to me you have more options with a clean signal, and can always add a screamer vst, but can never remove if recorded with the pedal.
 
Move it to the "public" folder and use the "copy public link" to post here the link.

The proble in the pedal is that you cannot change your pedal config after recordering but if you are sure of what are you doing it´s okay.
 
ya sry

https://www.dropbox.com/s/vbdckkk4g2blwix/asdf.mp3

true about using pedals, can't change the sound, but i've tried every dirt vst ever created and they all sound like garbage. best sound i got was a waves metal stomp in front of clean s-gear preset, or the mokafix cream tube. i just don't know what hardware to buy, tube pre, blah blah fn blah, i'm rich right now, could spend thousands but i don't know where to start. i just want to direct input.


edit: ideally i want a sticky palm mute, like duct tape being ripped off somebodys face with every hit, but just good sounding distortion would be a start
 
It's not the amp sims and it's not the babyface, I'd say it's your guitar or the settings you are using. There is no magical hardware that makes guitar tones good. A di box will only give you a slight difference compared to the rme.
 
nah, there's got to be something i can put in front of the babyface that will give it some edge. ... lehle sunday driver for example, or some box with character,

let me ask you this - what is the greatest direct input setup one can do? bar none
 
... you know what, forget it. i'll just get a moderate sized rig, find somebody w a nice room and a r121. spend years on tweaking stupid shit when you could take 5 minutes to put the mic right and be done with it, sound 100 times better.
 
"Technically stupid" but ignoring the advice of people trying to help? :lol:

Right. There is no "magical" hardware or any type of gear that will make you sound like a million $.
 
i think obviously there's a huge list of shit i could buy that would make direct input sound good.

i can appreciate you folks not wanting to part with your club's secrets, thanks for nothing.
 
Guitar - ts9 - babyface - daw - tse x50 - LeCab2 with impulse
Stay away from Waves GTR
Tightening up your picking and fretting will help.
If you're rocking a $100 squire strat with single coils it'll be pretty hard to get good tone.
 
thanks. the best amp sim (to my ear) is s-gear, and the best impulses is redwirez, which ironically comes with s-gear. i've tried every combination of impulse loader, impulse, and amp sim (commercial and free, quite literally every amp/impulse ever created) and s-gear straight up wins. that said, i cannot, for the life of me, find direct input distortion that i like, the s-gear amp gain sucks, as does every other dirt plug ever created, i've tried them all, until i finally threw some actual pedals into the line through the hi-z which is alright but still isn't there, leading me to believe i have to get some kind of character box, some tube preamp or i don't know what the fuck, or i just have to scratch the whole thing and use a studio like everyone else.

i used an sg on that recording and i did it quickly at 4am before work - my guitar or my playing isn't the issue, direct input is and i don't think there's a solution.



EDIT: if somebody leads me to the greatest distortion sound ever recorded through direct input, i'd appreciate it. recorded this half a decade ago with my brothers using guitar rig 5 (didn't know how to mix at the time, have to max it to really hear it).

https://www.dropbox.com/s/2kks9pbet9alqxf/06 - the Thomson Brothers - Tedious Maximus.mp3



.... here's one we did with waves gtr metal stomp/s-gear

https://www.dropbox.com/s/t924ohri7...- second basement album - 02 sun and dirt.mp3
 
Ok, here's the truth, you need to be a pretty damn good mixer to make DIs and amp sims work for you well - you are not a particularly good mixer. No amp sim is brilliant on its own - some people with good mixing chops have spent enough time with them to know how to get them to work in context but it takes a few years of faffing around; you obviously do not have the patience for this so I'd suggest going back to the amp/cab/sm57 approach - if this seems like too much like noise to you then save your money and buy a Kemper which is pretty much a near perfect representation of the real thing in digital format.
 
cool thanks.

going back to the i'm a technical idiot theme ... would i be running that thing through the babyface hi-z?

... i need an interface just to run the monitors/headphones (i'm assuming the kemper wouldn't take over that roll), and the babyface pres would be good enough for decent basement vox, just wondering how i'd be plugging the kemper in (1/4" direct output to the hi-z, or USB straight into the comp?).

but i think i'll get it, line666, i fucking deserve it.

magic hardware, because in the end, fiddling with technical bullshit only hurts the tunes. i need to turn a knob and concentrate on my fingers if you know what i mean.
 
fdsaevad said:
magic hardware, because in the end, fiddling with technical bullshit only hurts the tunes. i need to turn a knob and concentrate on my fingers if you know what i mean.
Click to expand...

You are in the wrong forum :lol:

The Kemper connects to the Babyface via SPDIF cables - do some reading up on the unit, it might get technical - you can capture the tone of your real amp setup with it and then run everything digitally. If you're technically challenged I'd still recommend the real amp/cab with 57 approach first though.
 
i appreciate that.

i'm buying this today. i've spent years looking for decent direct input distortion - if this doesn't work i will literally quit playing guitar.
 
You can get good tones from ampsims, but you'll have to spend a lot of time experimenting with it, and use a lot of post-eq to get it right.

I've never mic'd an amp, as I have a Peavy Valveking half-stack and it's tone isn't really the most appropriate for metal, so i'm unsure if it's easier to get a good tone with a miced amp or with ampsims+impulses.

What you could do as a test, is to record your guitar directly with your interface, without TS, double-track it and make sure it's on tempo, then post the DIs so that we can mix it and check whether it's possible to get a good tone out of it or if there's something wrong with it.

I'm not the best mixing/audio engineer in this forum by far, but I've been able to get good tones out of ampsims imho, mostly with X50 (it's a free 6505 ampsim) and god's cab (free Mesa OS with v30 impulses).

If you want take a listen at some tones that you can get with ampsims check out my soundcloud at https://soundcloud.com/nelson-frost-legion

EDIT: I almost forgot, for a mix to sound good you'll also need a bass, without it your guitars will never sound deep and powerful. So don't just focus on the guitar but rather on the music as a whole.

Cheers
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

Erkan
Question to all FireWire interface users (the FINAL question! *drama*)
Replies
41
Views
2K
Andy Sneap
digitaldeath
D
B
The festival wrap-up, thanks and much more-- FINALLY!!
Replies
11
Views
2K
BAR Fest
Rezonate
R
Top Bottom
Back