Do you miss old Sonata Arctica?

[Fire breath]

If so then check the amazing new single from Ukranian power metallers Sunrise. The chorus is epic with an uncanny Tony Kakko impression!

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMwHRsJLVYY&feature=related[/ame]

 

[Diamond45]

The single is available for download from the band's website. http://www.sunriseband.net/

 

[Metal_Camden]

That was pretty awesome!

 

[ApolloFC]

Quite enjoyed that, cheers.

 

[AeonicSlumber]

I don't care for Sonata Arctica and never have, but, I never understood the concept of random unrelated bands that completely hock another band's style down to the vocal and songwriting style. I mean, if I was a fan of Sonata, and I didn't like their new records, I'd just listen to their old records. What's the point in listening to a band that sounds exactly like them? They will never truly be like the band they are worshiping because they are not those people. I mean, I'm not trying to say that your justification for listening to a band is wrong or anything, but I just never personally understood that mentality. Do you feel as though you are desperate for "new" music in that style? Why? Serious question, as I'm curious.

 

[dcowboys311]

That was pretty awesome!

Agreed

 

[Diabolik]

I don't care for Sonata Arctica and never have, but, I never understood the concept of random unrelated bands that completely hock another band's style down to the vocal and songwriting style. I mean, if I was a fan of Sonata, and I didn't like their new records, I'd just listen to their old records. What's the point in listening to a band that sounds exactly like them? They will never truly be like the band they are worshiping because they are not those people. I mean, I'm not trying to say that your justification for listening to a band is wrong or anything, but I just never personally understood that mentality. Do you feel as though you are desperate for "new" music in that style? Why? Serious question, as I'm curious.

I have to agree.....nothing worse than a band completely copying off another in every aspect. It will never be the same band.

To answer your question though....I think most will flock to a band like this to relive the past glory of a band that they like but has changed in style a bit. Even though they know deep down it will never be the same but there will always be that hope. I just cant see a band forming and saying....hey we all ike this one band...lets sound just like them and write songs like they do and everything. How can that be any fun or creative. To each their own I guess.

 

[PureXul]

Do you feel as though you are desperate for "new" music in that style? Why? Serious question, as I'm curious.

Sometimes I like bands who do this because they're taking a band that I'm a huge fan of, drawing influence and inspiration and then hopefully expanding on those ideas. The last part is really the key for me though, so perhaps it's not the exact answer you were looking for, but I enjoy it because the band obviously enjoys something that I hold in high regard.

Take Savage Circus for example...the Thomen connection obviously plays a part in the Blind Guardian worship, but even Jens and Emil in Persuader have always had the comparison there. The debut SG album didn't stray too far from the early-to-mid-90s BG formula, but is well-executed and interesting. The second album strayed a bit further from the formula, and I would hope that future albums will continue to evolve into their own sound. Of course, I'd also hope that Persuader would get into the damn studio and put out a new album (and a PPUSA appearance while I'm making wishes), but that's neither here nor there.

Or, take Decapitated..."Winds of Creation" was thinly veiled Vader worship. Not poorly done, but lacking in originality. However, the band evolved from that point and put out some great material. I haven't been a fan of the last album or two, but it doesn't negate their earlier evolution.

Going back to your original question...I didn't even watch this video of Sonata Arctica worship, but a young band emulating a band/era I hold in high regard holds promise and interest for me because of the shared influence and regard of that band/era they're emulating. However, they need to expand on the ideas laid forth by the original band, otherwise it very quickly becomes pointless.

 

[Harvester]

I mean, if I was a fan of Sonata, and I didn't like their new records, I'd just listen to their old records. .

I'll be even more rudimentary & brutally honest with my explanation than others here. My high horse done galloped off...

I get bored with the same disc/songs, but not style.

If I crave a particular sound/era of a band that is no longer being produced, then I'm more than happy with a clone band provided they are quality. I can always challenge my musical boundaries, etc by checking out other stuff.

Prime example:

Queenryche sucks. They have sucked for a long time now. If I would have put Mindcrime on eternal repeat, then I would have missed out on the amazing Siam disc ("Prayer") that still gets spins to this day.

 

[Stingray11214]

This is real good stuff.....said as a fan of Sonata Arctica....Then AND now.

 

[LetTheWookieWin]

I Like It ! Gonna have to check it out !!

Hey Glenn who is this Siam band ? You got Me interested .

 

[Harvester]

Tony Mills's old band.

 

[nomisofsiman]

I get bored with the same disc/songs, but not style.

If I crave a particular sound/era of a band that is no longer being produced, then I'm more than happy with a clone band provided they are quality. I can always challenge my musical boundaries, etc by checking out other stuff.

Well said. I would have to agree.

I'm also quite digging this tune.

 

[The Fiddler]

I'll be even more rudimentary & brutally honest with my explanation than others here. My high horse done galloped off...

I get bored with the same disc/songs, but not style.

If I crave a particular sound/era of a band that is no longer being produced, then I'm more than happy with a clone band provided they are quality. I can always challenge my musical boundaries, etc by checking out other stuff.

Prime example:

Queenryche sucks. They have sucked for a long time now. If I would have put Mindcrime on eternal repeat, then I would have missed out on the amazing Siam disc ("Prayer") that still gets spins to this day.

Agreed. "The Language of Menace" is a strong disc too from Siam. Interestingly, that disc is almost a Mindcrime copycat effort, but it's so damn good and few have remotely come close to matching that QR classic, that I can get around the blatant similarities.

 

[spag]

I get bored with the same disc/songs, but not style.

Which is exactly how I found a lot of additional music I like over the years. I'm fine with a band that copies the sound of another, because often they add something to the mix.

 

[AeonicSlumber]

I'll be even more rudimentary & brutally honest with my explanation than others here. My high horse done galloped off...

I get bored with the same disc/songs, but not style.

If I crave a particular sound/era of a band that is no longer being produced, then I'm more than happy with a clone band provided they are quality. I can always challenge my musical boundaries, etc by checking out other stuff.

Prime example:

Queenryche sucks. They have sucked for a long time now. If I would have put Mindcrime on eternal repeat, then I would have missed out on the amazing Siam disc ("Prayer") that still gets spins to this day.

That's a rad argument bro. I didn't think of it that way which is is why I ask. I guess I just don't personally look at records like that. If I get tired of a record personally, it's usually because my brain craves something else, but I never think to myself "Metallica sucks now, but I sure love those first 4 albums -- is there anyone playing like them nowadays?" I guess I'm just weird like that. Opinions opinions!

 

[AeonicSlumber]

Or, take Decapitated..."Winds of Creation" was thinly veiled Vader worship. Not poorly done, but lacking in originality. However, the band evolved from that point and put out some great material. I haven't been a fan of the last album or two, but it doesn't negate their earlier evolution..

Whoa whoa whoa, what?!?!?! That album is one of the most unique albums to ever happen to death metal! Vader worship? They're Polish and they used the same studio to record the record as Vader famously recorded most of their records in, but that's where the similarities end as far as I am concerned. I have to this day, never heard a band (not even Decapitated themselves) throw down riffs HALF as twisted and insane as the ones on Winds. It's one of my favorite albums of that decade, I think Decapitated has considerably gotten worse with each release, going from this unique, technical but not wank-tastic dm act to a poor man's Fear Factory. You're obviously entitled to your opinion brah, but might I suggest spinning that record again?

Also, Fire Breath, I'm sorry for de-railing your thread into a discussion about uniqueness vs bands that sound like other bands, etc, but you gotta admit, it's a great discussion!

 

[Palabra de Dios]

What I find funny about this is that in their early days, Sonata Arctica were called Stratovarius clones...and I guess that is fair since there aren't a lot of Finnish power metal bands that were bigger than Stratovarius during that time.

That being said, Ecliptica is one of my top 10 all-time power metal albums (and will likely always be; just like Kamelot's Karma), and anything that draws from that influence, just like this obviously does...I will enjoy.

But AS, I see your point. Still, I think this song kicks ass. If they're going to wear their influence on their shoulder, at least it's good.

I mean, I love Carcass. But that doesn't mean that I don't also love Exhumed, Impaled, and General Surgery. (or even County Medical Examiners). Isn't that okay too?

 

[AeonicSlumber]

General Surgery is about as old as Carcass actually! Weird as hell I know, especially considering their first logo is a ripoff of Carcass'. However they don't really sound the same beyond the fact they sing about medical stuff and play grind.

 

[Palabra de Dios]

Stand corrected on them, then. But Impaled for sure; got their sound right from the Heartwork album (and I'm not complaining...I think I might even like Mondo Medicale better than Heartwork :-o)