I do a fair bit of melodeath and eastern sounding metal, I was looking to move away from reason and upgrade.. Choices I have are NI Kontakt and EastWest..
Anyone had experience?
Anyone had experience?
EastWest Synths and Metal?
- Thread starter ShadowKind
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consider the following before you buy EastWest:
- most of their stuff is very dated by todays standards, there aren't enough Round Robin samples for a lot of patches to sound realistic, it's harder to program than some of the competing products.
- the Play software the samples run on, is on my top 3 of the worst commercial plugins i have ever used.
- Play uses iLok.
i highly recommend going with Kontakt. i don't find the library Kontakt gets shipped with very good, but there are absolutely amazing 3rd party libraries available for it that i regret not buying instead of my EastWest products.
- most of their stuff is very dated by todays standards, there aren't enough Round Robin samples for a lot of patches to sound realistic, it's harder to program than some of the competing products.
- the Play software the samples run on, is on my top 3 of the worst commercial plugins i have ever used.
- Play uses iLok.
i highly recommend going with Kontakt. i don't find the library Kontakt gets shipped with very good, but there are absolutely amazing 3rd party libraries available for it that i regret not buying instead of my EastWest products.
Chainsaw Calligraphy
Connoisseur of Sound
If you're looking for orchestral sounds I would seriously consider VSL's products, particularly the Special Edition Vol. 1. They can't be beaten for realism although they are designed more for classical music rather than just adding some epic strings to a pop/rock/metal track.
TheWinterSnow
Den Mørke Natt
If you want a real upgrade, LA Scoring Strings for strings (obviously) and Vienna Symphonic Library for everything else.
In terms of quality, I haven't seen anything in the price range that is as complete and as comprehensible as EastWest, with all of its flaws, for the Gold version, its well worth the money.
In terms of quality, I haven't seen anything in the price range that is as complete and as comprehensible as EastWest, with all of its flaws, for the Gold version, its well worth the money.
hollywood strings is quite new, actually. if it wasn't for the Play engine it could be pretty good, however there are broader options within its price range.
GeertSamuel
Member
I've got Symphonic Orchestra and Symphonic Choirs. Sounds amazing to me, works really well. Got a release comming out in February where I finally had the possibility to use to both for an official release.
I'm really satisfied with the product. I haven't got any problems with Play, works good for me.
It doesn't feel out dated to me.
I'm really satisfied with the product. I haven't got any problems with Play, works good for me.
It doesn't feel out dated to me.
What sounds are you specifically looking for? "Eastern" to me might suggest that you're looking for some non-orchestral instruments?
Calippo Tecks
Member
I personally use La Scoring Strings for all my string sounds, Hollywood Brass (east west) and for woodwinds east west symphonic orchestra (there are a lot new woodwind libraries out there, but I still think they sound quite good)
I have to add that PLAY is definitely a pain for some people, it works quite well on my system, but I'm just really lucky!
I have to add that PLAY is definitely a pain for some people, it works quite well on my system, but I'm just really lucky!
Sweetnothing
¯\(º_o)/¯
The thing is, while LASS sounds great as a orchestral library on its own, it just can't come through a wall of guitars. I struggled with a song with a strings part and no matter what I did, LASS didn't do the trick where ewqlo free did. I use lass ( and orchestral brass) for soundtrack kinda things.
For metal I would pick east west. It's also very cinematic sounding where other options such as lass or vsl require further processing.
Just my experience with it.
For metal I would pick east west. It's also very cinematic sounding where other options such as lass or vsl require further processing.
Just my experience with it.
abaga129
The Apprentice
For any type of orchestra instrument I use edirol orchestral. I've been very pleased with the strings which has dozens of options for each instrument. All of the other instruments i've tried in it were pretty good as well.
This is just another option amongst several of other potentially great vsti's
This is just another option amongst several of other potentially great vsti's
Only time I had problems with PLAY is when choirs in REAPER. Haven't tried in cubase yet
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/42168306/March of the doomed.mp3
SOG/SD2 and choirs obviously.
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/42168306/March of the doomed.mp3
SOG/SD2 and choirs obviously.
Wow, I didn't expect so many cool replies.. As somebody above mentioned I'm mainly after voices of passion and symphonic choir's followed by something like stormdrum for the eastern vibe.
I'm kind of torn, if I could run eastwest through Kontakt 5 that would be ideal. Although they also have a 75% off bundle at the moment so bloody good deal.
Something like 800 Euro's for 7 or 8 packs.
I'm kind of torn, if I could run eastwest through Kontakt 5 that would be ideal. Although they also have a 75% off bundle at the moment so bloody good deal.
Something like 800 Euro's for 7 or 8 packs.
Ok, I am interested in part of this thread. I'm hijacking it for one post.
I have been trying to get a great sound in EW. I love its sound, but I can't really use it correctly it seems. If you want a big sound for strings and such, do you want to use the full ensemble samples or should you create massive layers of individual string instruments?
I have been trying to get a great sound in EW. I love its sound, but I can't really use it correctly it seems. If you want a big sound for strings and such, do you want to use the full ensemble samples or should you create massive layers of individual string instruments?
