Fear Factory anno 2004

J.

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Jul 24, 2001
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I've listened to Archetype about three times now, after getting it on Saturday. Hell must be freezing over, because this album actually is a "return to form." This is no St. Anger or The World Needs a Hero. This is vintage Fear Factory.

I hesitate to claim that it is better than Obsolete, which is my favorite FF album, even though many love to rip on that album. Hell, I even liked about half of Digimortal. Everyone's favorite album, Demanufature, is hit and miss with me. Half the album is untouchable, half the album is average. I much prefer Archetype to FF's classic, Demanufacture.

Archetype is definitely a return to the brutal, mechanical sound of Demanufature. There are no "soft" songs like Resurrection (which was brilliant) or Therapy for Pain that ends the album, although it does end in typical FF fashion.

The majority of the songs are very strong, with only 1 or 2 duds (out of 12 FF songs and 1 cover, more on that later). Like Demanufacture, Archetype centers on the strengths of the band, Herrera's mechanically precise drumming and Burton's vocals. Herrera of course blows the shit out of almost every other metal drummer, triggers or not. Although, it can be argued that triggers are a part of FF's sound, since they are an "industrial" metal band. Burton's vocals have vastly improved since Digimortal. He sounds far more aggressive and energetic. His clean vocals are more precise and less-nasally than on Digimortal. In my opinion, he is one of metal's finest all-around vocalists.

It must also be said that Christian Olde Wolbers does a fine job on guitar (he was the band's bassist since Demanufature) and Byron Stroud (SYL) is strong on bass. I guess getting rid of Dino was what the band needed to get their collective shit together. Obviously, Dino must have been directing the band astray, because his absence has ignited and energized the band.

My biggest gripe with the album is the cover they chose. FF is no stranger to cover songs, as they've done both Dog Day Sunrise and Cars, but to pick Kurt Cobain's "School" (I assume this was a Nirvana song..??) just doesn't fit. It is tacked on the very end of the album, after a very fitting FF ending, practically ruining any feeling the ending gave. I went from thinking "Now that was a great Fear Factory album" to listening to lyrics about "high school" and shit. The cover just isn't convincing, doesn't fit the FF mold (Dog Day Sunrise was great), plus Nirvana has always sucked.

Other than a gripe or two, Archetype is a very worthy FF release. It might be a case of "too little too late" for some. But I've always had a soft spot for the band and felt that they have received more criticism and baseless insults than they deserved.

Will Archetype win FF many new fans? It really depends on the individual. Any fan of metal should enjoy this. It's thrashy, brutal, fast, has great vocals, excellent drumming, but a lot of people are turned off by the mechanical feel FF sometimes gives, not to mention the listeners that probably heard Soul of a New Machine (boring death metal with crappy vocals) or Digimortal (FF's "Black Album") first.

Will old FF fans like this? Without a doubt.
 
Just a brief comment about that 'Dino was obviously leading the band astray' bit.

In interviews with Fear Factory immediately after the release of Digimortal, Dino was reportedly unhappy with the less aggressive direction FF were taking. He reportedly complained about the clean guitar parts in 'Invisible Wounds', saying 'This isn't Fear Factory!', to which Burton replies something along the lines of 'Well, you're in Fear Factory, and you're playing it, so it has to be FF!'.

Also, immediately after the initial Fear Factory split, Burton C. Bell starts his solo project, The Watchers (later retitled Ascenscion Of The Watchers, and apparently now on hiatus due to total lack of interest). In this project, Burton promises ambient, hypnotic soundscapes and that he won't do harsh singing any more - clean vocals all the way!

Now, AOTW never took off, Dino seems to be quite happy working with Brujeria and the like (more suggestion that he didn't go soft), and suddenly Fear Factory reform without Dino and do a 'return to form' album - even though Dino was the only one complaining about Digimortal's pussification!

It all seems a tad suspicious to me, but if the result is a damned good new Fear Factory album, then motives be damned.
 
yeah, I admit I know next to nothing about the Burton vs. Dino soap-opera. All I know is that FF have just released a grand album, and they did it without Dino.

The thing that bothers me though, is that Dino is supposedly complaining about becoming soft, yet he's the one that writes the riffs to most of the songs, including the Korn-ish ones on Digimortal. I don't know, Dino has always come across (to me) in interviews as the one that wants more money and stuff, probably to expand his noted porn collection.
 
All I know about Dino is that guy is one fat motherfucker. Also, seeing him live with Assesino (one of the Brujeria offshoots) was a sight to behold. Actually that whole band was incredible, Raymond Herrara on drums and the bassist from Static-X on bass and vocals. He cussed at everyone in the audience in Spanish between EVERY song and Dino would just stand there with his middle finger to the sky, it was hilarious. They were of course wearing the Mexican wrestler masks the whole time.
 
question about the cd. I know that there are two different dvds that will be available in the package..

which one did you get? and how the hell are you supposed to figure out which one you get?

Evil C.
 
I had no idea there were two versions of the DVD (which I haven't watched yet). However, when I bought it, there was a huge sticker stating some stuff which was on the DVD, but damned if I remember what it said. I still have the wrapper in the trash, so I could dig it out when I get home, no prob.
 
OK Evil C. Now I see what you were talking about. THe front sticker says:

Fear Factory
Archetype
Includes exclusive, limited edition bonus DVD with every CD!
Australian Tour 2004 DVD or Fear Factory Documentary, The Making of Archetype DVD

The Enclosed Golden Ticket is Your Chance to win a fly-a-way to see Fear Factory Perform Live

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Damn, I'm glad I got the Australian Tour DVD instead of a documentary. No where does it say which DVD is included. You have a 50/50 shot at either one.
 
Black Winter Day needs more kick drum in his musical diet, pick up Fear Factory again. :p
 
When I was living in London surrounded by swarms of my acid techno mates, the only shit they would let me play was Remanufacture.

The only way to listen to FF is loud.
 
I heard this last week, it was great. Very much like Fear Factory of yore. Christian does a great job on guitar, but all his basslines followed Dino anyhow, so I guess it's not that big of a difference.

Any FF fans pick up Concrete, their unreleased debut (or something)? I have a burned copy of it. Slightly above average raw death metal, but I only listened to half of it one time so I guess it didn't make much of an impact on me.

EDIT: Hmm, I just read a glowing review of Concrete, p'raps I should unbury it and give it another spin.
 
I didn't like SOul of a New Machine other than two songs, so I doubt I would like COncrete. Fear Factory started with Demanufacture as far as I'm concerned.

Archetype fucking kicks ass.