god i hate Black metal

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dimmu borgir and cradle of filth A) arent even black metal really, and B) fucking rock. if you got old songs with bad production i could maybe see what you mean, but the 4 newest from each of them are good and have rather clear production. you should give them another chance maybe. or if you dont like keyboards dont bother.
-neal
 
Immortal
Nokturnal Mortum
Khold
Destroyer 666
Darkthrone
Burzum
Nargaroth
Mutiilation
Absu
Aborym
Noctuary
etc.

black metal is the best music on the face of the planet
 
Cradle of Filth and Dimmu borgir are not black metal they're death metal u retard!