google and youtube!!!!

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We're busted!
they are going to know all those cheezy 80's metal bands we watched!!!!

Google must divulge YouTube log


Google must divulge the viewing habits of every user who has ever watched any video on YouTube, a US court has ruled.
The ruling comes as part of Google's legal battle with Viacom over allegations of copyright infringement.
Digital rights group the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) called the ruling a "set-back to privacy rights".
The viewing log, which will be handed to Viacom, contains the log-in ID of users, the computer IP address (online identifier) and video clip details.
While the legal battle between the two firms is being contested in the US, it is thought the ruling will apply to YouTube users and their viewing habits everywhere.
Viacom, which owns MTV and Paramount Pictures, has alleged that YouTube is guilty of massive copyright infringement.
The UK's Premier League association is also seeking class action status with Viacom on the issue, alledging YouTube has been used to watch football highlights.
Legal action
When it initiated legal action in March 2007 Viacom said it had identified about 160,000 unauthorised clips of its programmes on the website, which had been viewed more than 1.5 billion times.
Following the launch of its billion-dollar lawsuit, YouTube introduced filtering tools in an effort to prevent copyright materials from appearing on the site.

The US court declined Viacom's request that Google be forced to hand over the source code of YouTube, saying it was a "trade secret" that should not be disclosed.
But it said privacy concerns expressed by Google about handing over the log were "speculative".
Google's senior litigation counsel Catherine Lacavera said in a statement: "We are disappointed the court granted Viacom's over-reaching demand for viewing history.
"We will ask Viacom to respect users' privacy and allow us to anonymise the logs before producing them under the court's order."
The ruling will see the viewing habits of millions of YouTube users given to Viacom, totalling more than 12 terabytes of data.
Viacom said it wanted the data to "compare the attractiveness of allegedly infringing video with that of non-infringing videos."
'Erroneous ruling'
Leading privacy expert Simon Davies told BBC News that the privacy of millions of YouTube users was threatened.

He said: "The chickens have come home to roost for Google.
"Their arrogance and refusal to listen to friendly advice has resulted in the privacy of tens of millions being placed under threat."
Mr Davies said privacy campaigners had warned Google for years that IP addresses were personally identifiable information.
Google pledged last year to anonymise IP addresses for search information but it has said nothing about YouTube data.
Mr Davies said: "Governments and organisations are realising that companies like Google have a warehouse full of data. And while that data is stored it is under threat of being used and putting privacy in danger."
The EFF said: "The Court's erroneous ruling is a set-back to privacy rights, and will allow Viacom to see what you are watching on YouTube.
"We urge Viacom to back off this overbroad request and Google to take all steps necessary to challenge this order and protect the rights of its users."
The body said the ruling was also potentially unlawful because the log data did contain personally identifiable data.
The court also ruled that Google disclose to Viacom the details of all videos that have been removed from the site for any reason.
 
I'm on another board this was posted on. That's some serious data they want them to hand over. And everyone knows copyright infringement will be the last thing it's used for. It's pretty much a marketing goldmine.
 
If all this shit is shown on television, shouldn't we be able to watch it on youtube, or any other site we wish to, especially if tivo or dvr is unaffordable for some of us. I agree with jibrille, it is a marketing goldmine, but can't you go to any video on youtube and it shows how many times it has been viewed and view comments on what people think.
 
If all this shit is shown on television, shouldn't we be able to watch it on youtube, or any other site we wish to, especially if tivo or dvr is unaffordable for some of us. I agree with jibrille, it is a marketing goldmine, but can't you go to any video on youtube and it shows how many times it has been viewed and view comments on what people think.

But with the IP information you can tell the the locations people are viewing these from to know area specific target demographics not just that 1 million people from all over the world viewed it.
 
Good point, I guess I didn't think it all the way through, too much on my damned mind right now to think that hard. I will say one thing about youtube, they need to up the size of videos you are allowed to upload, because a while back I tried to upload some drumming videos of mine, but they wouldn't take the size, and I am too lazy to convert them and such and edit them, but I would think they could take the size because they weren't long videos by any means, they should take at least a gig video, but anyways, my whiskey has been talking too much lately, hehe.
 
YouTube accepts up to a gig for video size, but the maximum length is still ten minutes. Which is a shame, since I have some vids (including Odin's Court) that time out at just a bit over ten minutes.
 
YouTube accepts up to a gig for video size, but the maximum length is still ten minutes. Which is a shame, since I have some vids (including Odin's Court) that time out at just a bit over ten minutes.

Rick won't mind if you shorten his guitar solo to something more "radio/youtube friendly"

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