Gore and violence

[Goreripper]

I was thinking about this today and was wondering what others might think. I remember the controversy and condemnation about Hostel when it came out, with all the reviews and concern over the gore and violence. Now, it's been a while since I've watched it, but from memory apart from the girl getting her eye cut out with scissors, most of the violence in that was off screen/implied, am I right? Yet there was a huge ruckus about it as an exploitation film, about it being sickening, sadistic and all the rest. I only raise the issue because last night on Supernatural there was a scene where a guy was strapped to a board, cut open with a scalpel and ribspreaders and had his still-beating heart cut out while he was looking on, screaming. How is something like that acceptable to be shown on TV, but Hostel practically under threat of being banned from cinemas?

 

[Blitzkrieg]

I didn't see it, but it certainly sounds like you have a fair point.

 

[Shadow298]

because it's implied violence rather than blatantly shown.

personally, think that all those gorror films are utter shite and supernatural isn't much better.

what happened to movies where they had genuine tension and shock?
ones that gave you huge scares because things were unexpected and sudden.

and had villains that made you shit yourself at the very mention of them years later.

films like the original Alien, Nightmare on Elm Street, Poltergiest and Child's Play.

so glad that countries like Spain are doing genuine horror films -such as The Orphanage- and keeping the genre viable outside of all the J-Horror rip off and gorefests.

 

[Goreripper]

I'm not sure you answered my question.

 

[Mean Machine]

I have no idea why it's looked at differently on television than at the cinemas. Hostel was not that bad, at all. There wasn't that much extreme gore, and the sadism and such that was involved was all very obvious Hollywood stuff. It's honestly beyond me why it was even considered banning that movie.

Hostel was a pathetic attempt at filling a movie with tits and gore to get teenagers to watch it anyway. Number 2 wasn't much better.

 

[KoichCPA]

It's because no one actually watches supernatural.

You were the only person in whole country who noticed.

 

[Mean Machine]

I watch Supernatural, it's a great show. It's nothing brilliant but it's very entertaining for the most part. And they have a pretty good soundtrack too.

 

[Shadow298]

I'm not sure you answered my question.

I didn't care about your question.

I just wanted to rant.

thought you would've figured out my MO by now, Gore. :Smug:

 

[Blitzkrieg]

Hostel was a pathetic attempt at filling a movie with tits and gore to get teenagers to watch it anyway. Number 2 wasn't much better.

I didn't mind Hostel, but the sequel was by no means better. It sucked. I liked the idea of doing it from both female backpackers perspective rather than the males, and also doing it from the killers perspective, but it was pretty damn average.

 

[Shannow]

One of the most graphic scenes I recall was the disembowelment in Braveheart.

 

[TRrEiTxIxRiE DTrash]

The faked snuff footage in "Emanuelle In America" is one of the nastiest and most graphic things I've seen in a film. But that film is actually banned.. I guess the whole rule the OFLC has about X-Rated films being allowed zero violence was shattered by putting hardcore porn in the same movie as extremely horrific violence (and a horse scene).

Onto Gorey's topic though, "The Texas Chainsaw Massacre II" is a weird case of film vs TV ratings.
- Banned on video, film & DVD (until 2006 when it was finally passed uncut here).
- In the late 90s, Foxtel were able to screen it with only one scene cut, which wasn't even the one that caused the censorship problem in the first place.

Very weird!

 

[Winmar]

Haha Emmanuelle In America sounds rather weird!

I watched the first 20 mins or so of Hostel, but when the guy started drilling through a girl's leg I turned off. Not smart film making, not entertaining, not worth my time!

 

[Incarnate]

The scene where the chick was getting her rocks off by spilling all the other chick's blood on her in Hostel II was funny as. A pitiful movie. And stupid woman empowerment scene at the end when the chick cuts the dude's nads off.

Chilling movies are awesome, 1408 was the best horror in recent memory but not the best ever.

 

[Goreripper]

I haven't seen Hostel II and don't really care to. BUt I enjoyed Hostel. I thought some of the subtexts were more interesting than the story.

 

[Stonewall]

I enjoyed 1408. I had a really wierd feeling of familiarity when watching it but was adamant I had never read any of Stephen King's fiction. It was troubling me for ages until I recalled that he referred to it at some length in his book on writing.

 

[Southy]

I have to watch 1408, everyone keeps telling me how good it is

But onto the gore/violence subject, I am almost cold to it in tv and movies, but all those in depth medical shows, I still can't handle too much, I think because I know that shit is real. I do protect my kids from it to a degree, but as they get older it is harder and harder to control. I have never been one to want mass protection from my government, I believe that it is still a matter of self regulation, don't like it, turn it off, simple solution really

 

[Priest of Evil]

I thought roughly the same thing when I watched Supernatural the other night, bizarre. Its been some time since I watched Hostel so its hard to make a comparison. I'd hazard a guess it was the ongoing sadism (being tortured to death) in Hostel though. I agree with Southy, censorship should be a personal choice.

 

[Stonewall]

I only remember watching the first few episodes of Supernatural and found them to be fairly creepy. Did the show stay good?

 

[Goreripper]

No.

 

[Stonewall]

Damn.