Its hardly fair to judge Petrucci's tastefulness on a single album that was written to be a classic metal album. Although I agree that the band's epitome of masking technicality in beautiful music occured during Images & Words, it is hard to pass off his work on Awake and A Change of Seasons. Since then, perhaps he has gotten less consistant. But you can't pass off Lines in the Sand, Overture 1812, Spirit Carries On, Goodnight Kiss, etc.
guitar battle: joe satriani vs. marty friedman
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Its hardly fair to judge Petrucci's tastefulness on a single album that was written to be a classic metal album. Although I agree that the band's epitome of masking technicality in beautiful music occured during Images & Words, it is hard to pass off his work on Awake and A Change of Seasons. Since then, perhaps he has gotten less consistant. But you can't pass off Lines in the Sand, Overture 1812, Spirit Carries On, Goodnight Kiss, etc.
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Why the fuck are you guys raving on about Petrucci and Romeo......i thought this thread was about Allan Holdsworth?
Zax666
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Notice only one of the songs mentioned is from the newer stuff.
Petrucci USED to write great guitar solos. Now he shreds. Really fast. Whoop-dee-fucking-doo. Stuff like I&W and ACoS were amazing, but now DT seems content with being "a band that can play their instruments really fast."
I think JP's a great soloist, but a terrible shredder - Romeo shreds in almost every solo he plays; but it's always new, fitting, interesting, and memorable. Petrucci's shred sounds like a blur of pointless notes.
And I'd like to second Gilmour for G3 (unless the other choices include EVH or Romeo).
the_satanic_rabbit
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ABQShredHead
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I tie Dream Theater's demise to Kevin Moore's departure. Though Metropolis 2 was great, the musical direction has changed for the worse.
For Satch vs. Friedman - I like Friedman's Thunder March overall, but he's really weird to watch play. I've seen Satch live on several occasions and he always puts on a good show. I'll have to give my preference nod to Satch on this topic.
For Satch vs. Friedman - I like Friedman's Thunder March overall, but he's really weird to watch play. I've seen Satch live on several occasions and he always puts on a good show. I'll have to give my preference nod to Satch on this topic.
OfSinsAndShred said:Notice only one of the songs mentioned is from the newer stuff.
Petrucci USED to write great guitar solos. Now he shreds. Really fast. Whoop-dee-fucking-doo. Stuff like I&W and ACoS were amazing, but now DT seems content with being "a band that can play their instruments really fast."
Indeed.
I think JP's a great soloist, but a terrible shredder - Romeo shreds in almost every solo he plays; but it's always new, fitting, interesting, and memorable. Petrucci's shred sounds like a blur of pointless notes.
JP is amazing, his fretboard agility isn't seen too often. He's just boring as fuck. "Wow, look at me, I can play faster than you!" And Romeo certainly does keep it interesting in every unique solo he performs. Some say he sounds too similar to Malmsteen, and in some ways he may, though I tend to believe he's a bit heavier with much more emotive solos(though I love Malmsteen's work greatly).
And I'd like to second Gilmour for G3 (unless the other choices include EVH or Romeo).
Haha, not too many people would agree with Gilmour going to G3 I'm sure. It would be something though ... the man has some of the best solos planet earth has to offer. "Comfortably Numb"? Amazing. Tell me, have you heard his solo in "Is Your Love Strong Enough", Sins&Shred? It was a song with Bryan Ferry done for the 1985 movie "Legend" starring Tom Cruise. If not check it out.
Also, to see EVH or Romeo siding with Satch at a G3 would be the ultimate guitar concert to attend.
And good point, Satanic Rabbit, I didn't have any intentions on changing this thread to a "Does Petrucci Shred Too Damn Much?" topic. I apologize, Scenes. So I will back up my opinion of Satch over Friedman by briefly explaining why.
First, he was one of the biggest inspirations for me to pick up the guitar (only second to Chuck Shuldiner). The "Surfing With The Alien" album has got to be one of the best guitar virtuouso albums ever written. The song itself inspired me, while it probably sent most wannabe shredders back home with tucked tails.
Technically, he is one of the most well rounded musicians you will hear. And as far as techniques go on his instrument ... well, let's just say he has mastered each thoroughly.
Last, he's not an asswipe like most great musicians are(and doesn't feel the need to show off constantly). It also taught me that when I truly do become a solid master over the guitar, I don't have to be an arrogant jerk. Musicians who glorify themselves disgust me and I usually will have no use for them. Malmsteen is really the only exception.
With the last paragraph I could continue off topic and dig into my distaste for the likes of Mike Portnoy. But, I'll keep it limited while simultaneously sounding similar to myself back in my middle school punk days ... Sean Reinert owns him.
There are more reasons concerning Satch but I'm keeping it brief. And regardless, Friedman is amazing. I look up to him and admire his technical brilliance.
Schulinder is so underappreciated as a guitarist.
I'd certainly like to see gilmour on g3. They'll probably go with some shred monster next after the reaction to fripp, but I wish they would go against the grain and bring along gilmour or beck or something.
I'd certainly like to see gilmour on g3. They'll probably go with some shred monster next after the reaction to fripp, but I wish they would go against the grain and bring along gilmour or beck or something.
ABQShredHead
©1970
Actually, he did just that when I saw him with DT on the 6 degrees tour. Although he gained my respect back tenfold on G3.
OfSinsAndShred said:
I wasn't aware of that ... but it's good to hear he regained your respect. I mostly speak of the times that I have read what he has said in interviews or videos and of course, G3. He's always seemed quite a humble master and more than happy to give out advice, or just talk music with anyone. And that's one of the many things I admire about the guy.
And yes, Vfrex, Schuldiner is highly underrated as a guitarist. He was a guitar hero, I don't know how many people would agree with that but he certainly was mine, and for many others I have spoken with he was. He was one of those rare breeds that could sit down and play some fiddlin' country song about the hills in the south and one would still know it was Chuck playing.
His tone was very distinct and catchy, underlined immensely with passion, exhibited in most of his awesome solos.
He had many solos that inspired me to finally make up my mind about what instrument I wanted to pick up, but it wasn't until I heard "The Flesh And The Power It Holds" that I finally realized that my main instrument would be the guitar.
And nice band, Sins&Shred.
Luis
Mortal With Immortal Mind
Androz
Lord of the Cheese
I really REALLY dont like Angelo, he is just a guy who plays fast, i prefer someone who plays slow but with good techniqueLuis said:
TotenMitMacht
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I saw that Angelo video and was quite unimpressed- I don't think he's very good at all. I would like to see a g3 with Michael Romeo, Steve Vai and Yngwie Malmsteen.
I can't remember who it was that described Romeo as a "restrained Malmsteen", but I agree 100%. Romeo has skill, technique and feeling equal to Yngwie but he doesn't shove it down our throats in every song. Rather, his work to make all parts of Symphony X songs extremely impressive makes them much more fun and exciting- how many times have we heard a Yngwie song with shitty vocals and bland backing instruments but with a blistering guitar solo that lasts 3 min? Romeo has shown that he can shred better than the best (the second solo in Of Sins and Shadows, after the keyboard solo, is absolutely ungodly) but will make everything else as awesome as the guitar. Could Yngwie write anything as excellent as "The Odyssey?" Could Vai, Petrucci or Satriani? No. That is why Romeo is the best of all the others.
I can't remember who it was that described Romeo as a "restrained Malmsteen", but I agree 100%. Romeo has skill, technique and feeling equal to Yngwie but he doesn't shove it down our throats in every song. Rather, his work to make all parts of Symphony X songs extremely impressive makes them much more fun and exciting- how many times have we heard a Yngwie song with shitty vocals and bland backing instruments but with a blistering guitar solo that lasts 3 min? Romeo has shown that he can shred better than the best (the second solo in Of Sins and Shadows, after the keyboard solo, is absolutely ungodly) but will make everything else as awesome as the guitar. Could Yngwie write anything as excellent as "The Odyssey?" Could Vai, Petrucci or Satriani? No. That is why Romeo is the best of all the others.
Androz
Lord of the Cheese
i dont think romeo is the best guitar player, but anyone who can play the guitar solo in ayreon's "down of amillion souls" is worthy of a g3
I agree with you.... Angelo can play fast but he can't play that clearly and with emotion...Androz said:
I think that Holdsworth & Shawn Lane are the best...Everyone have copied their stuf.
..........I almost forgot.... Satriani is better that friedman...
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