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mutantllama
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Alright, I was offered the final two interviews for the position, but, the world being full of "conservative-minded skullfuckers", I would have to get rid of all my hair and facial hair... I'm not too keen on the idea, counting I really don't want to be making such a commitment to a job market that I don't really have experience in. Business is not a passion of mine, and I really don't feel like cutting off something that has been a part of me for the last 7 years.
I'm going to go back for another interview, and I need to see what is going on work & pay wise. I'm not changing my "look" (which isn't bad btw, I had my hair and beard neatly groomed, full suit, no tattoo's or piercings) to fit to some old ass conservative bias which - in all factuality - has nothing to do with my competency at a job. Now if I was a mechanic, or something of similar ilk where I could be scalped by a machine, I would understand. But this is office work... what is the big fucking deal?
I should call gender bias/discrimination!!
I'm going to go back for another interview, and I need to see what is going on work & pay wise. I'm not changing my "look" (which isn't bad btw, I had my hair and beard neatly groomed, full suit, no tattoo's or piercings) to fit to some old ass conservative bias which - in all factuality - has nothing to do with my competency at a job. Now if I was a mechanic, or something of similar ilk where I could be scalped by a machine, I would understand. But this is office work... what is the big fucking deal?
I should call gender bias/discrimination!!
The Ozzman
Melted by feels
Some would argue that the way you look is representative of that organization. I don't agree with that, but whatever. I see more and more corporate types with facial hair, so I don't think many businesses are staying tr00 conservative anymore.
Also, don't ask about your pay until you are offered the job or the question is posed to you initially.
Also, don't ask about your pay until you are offered the job or the question is posed to you initially.
Matt
Active Member
See if a pony tail could suffice. If not, I would honestly cut the hair because jobs like that (sounds like a good one) are hard to get and shit. I have to cut my hair every year before baseball season starts.
Yeah, but unless this job is something that I was really passionate about, or would open any doors that would lead to such passion - then I won't make that change.
I told him that I wasn't sure of the decision, and he said that that was perfectly acceptable, and to contact him if I would like to continue with the 3-part interview. Needless to say, I will be contacting him - but this will have to come up in conversation again.
Shaving my face is one thing (I'm fine with it), but my scalp is my business - it's not goofy or fugly, and it isn't in some god awful condition; I understand that my appearance will mold the first impressions people will have, but if this field is really that shallow to where people only judge on looks and not the bigger picture (greater company expansion, fiscal responsibility, ethical treatment of people, etc.), then this field can go fuck itself in the ass.
But yeah, I didn't ask about pay - I soooooooo wanted too though. The guy I was talking too had made 45k inhis first 9 months working there, less than two years later he was pulling in 200k managing the office... I got to say I am damn impressed with that.
At least the guy seemed to genuinely like me; then again, I can be really naive.
I told him that I wasn't sure of the decision, and he said that that was perfectly acceptable, and to contact him if I would like to continue with the 3-part interview. Needless to say, I will be contacting him - but this will have to come up in conversation again.
Shaving my face is one thing (I'm fine with it), but my scalp is my business - it's not goofy or fugly, and it isn't in some god awful condition; I understand that my appearance will mold the first impressions people will have, but if this field is really that shallow to where people only judge on looks and not the bigger picture (greater company expansion, fiscal responsibility, ethical treatment of people, etc.), then this field can go fuck itself in the ass.
But yeah, I didn't ask about pay - I soooooooo wanted too though. The guy I was talking too had made 45k inhis first 9 months working there, less than two years later he was pulling in 200k managing the office... I got to say I am damn impressed with that.
At least the guy seemed to genuinely like me; then again, I can be really naive.
The Ozzman
Melted by feels
Yeah, I could do without facial hair, but if I had hair as long as yours, I would be pissed if I had to cut it. I'm pretty sure if you keep it tied up they won't mind.
The whole 'clean-cut' image that these organizations have pisses me off.
The whole 'clean-cut' image that these organizations have pisses me off.
cookiecutter
Proceed to Ultraslamming
I don't really see how a well groomed pony tail looks any less professional than a normal haircut. I'm sure these notions will change once the douchebags who are still pissed from the 60s all retire. Nowadays a wider variety of appearance is acceptable amongst younger people.
Zephyrus
Tyrants and Slaves
I'd be pissed off if I was denied a teaching position because I refused to cut my hair. This actually might happen since Catholic/private schools offer Latin more than public schools.
^Which is very odd btw; my philosophy professor had 10k worth in tattoo's (two sleeves, back and portion of chest) but everything was perfectly acceptable as long as he had a long sleeve shirt on (which is always classy to begin with, plus it generally looked good on him). He is already up for tenure for his hard work and I salute him for it. But hair... it's just hair - really, what is the big deal, especially if it is kempt?
Zephyrus
Tyrants and Slaves
The Ozzman
Melted by feels
I went to a catholic high school and was taught by teachers with long hair. I think there it's just how you present yourself with private institutions. Also, if the demand is there, I don't think you would be turned down solely on your hairstyle unless it's outrageously flamboyant.
