Heaven Shall Burn vocals

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What do you think about the HSB vocals? They are always in stereo so, do you think he records 2(main) takes for every song, or it could be a widener stereo fx on one take?
 
Lasse Lammert said:
damn, what a messy mix IMO
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What album are you referring to?

I can't listen to the Iconoclast for too long at loud volumes...The presence and high mids just kill me.

Sometimes I wonder if there is actually guitars on that mix, too...Or if it's just white noise switched on and off rhythmically. You just can't tell too much about them as the drums and vocals swallow the whole mix, IMO.
 
Yeah I heard Iconoclast recently and it was an almost instant headache because of the insane compression. The others are pretty nice, though, IMO.
 
nwright said:
What album are you referring to?

I can't listen to the Iconoclast for too long at loud volumes...The presence and high mids just kill me.

Sometimes I wonder if there is actually guitars on that mix, too...Or if it's just white noise switched on and off rhythmically. You just can't tell too much about them as the drums and vocals swallow the whole mix, IMO.
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yup, that was what I was referring to.
I mean, it's massive......but nothing more...it's really loud and in your face....
still sounds like shit in my ears :(
 
I got all anxious when I thought I realised that Dan Swano mixed their last album - I was worried I was going to have some negative thoughts about the man! (my points of complaint are the same as yours nwright) Though some of Dan's mixes are quite similar to that (harsh high-mids - the last Aeon is nearly too harsh for me, and probably would be if I didn't enjoy the music so much), but then he still pumps out gems like the last The Project Hate.

Anyway, to get back on topic, who DID mix HSB?
 
NNotN-ENN said:
Really? Ugh. I was really digging his work from around '05-'07 (particularly Gorefest's La Muerte), but if that's the kind of thing he's doing now then.... well... :puke:
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Don't judge him by that. He does a lot of really good work and his style is really varied. Also, he just mixed it, he didn't track it. I believe the band tracked it themselves. Dangerous :p Check out "Allegory" by Divinity, or "Messengers" by August Burns Red for cool Tue Mixes.
 
Sinister Mephisto said:
Check out "Allegory" by Divinity, or "Messengers" by August Burns Red for cool Tue Mixes.
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Yeah both of those albums fit into the '05-'07 period I was talking about :p

I'm not totally writing him off by the way, I just checked out a few of his new mixes and none of em sound anywhere near like the Heaven Shall Burn album (and all previous HSB albums have that kind of sound, so maybe it's them rather than him?), so all is not lost!

I partcularly like a lot of his snares.
 
I am a big fan of Tue works but....it seems that since he changed his studio, he lost his "magic". He used to work in a really small studio, he tracked drums in a little room. His monitors were Behringer 2031 etc... and he did wonderful mixes (mnemic, dagoba, the haunted,ektomorf,etc..).
From 2007 he redesigned his studio: no more drums room and a bigger control room, genelecs, yammy hs50, behringer, sub-woofer. Usually now it use external studio for drums (puk studio or another studio in arhus) but....holy shit...the 70% of his mix now sounds like shit. Listen to Destroy (Ektomorf,2004) and the last one: Destroy had a veeery great guitar sound...the last one sucks some major ass. Or listen do Dagoba, "What the hell is about" is a veeery great album, with a awesome drums sound...but the last one, shit, it sucks...
So...I think that the old studio,also if it wasn't treated, had a good sound....but the new one could break the Tue's Carrier if he doesn't do anything to improve it
 
Also, more to the point of the vocals...IMO you can achieve a REALLY similar effect by taking a double tracked vocal line and compressing the crap out of it and then use Waves Morphoder (I think that's what it's called) and use the "whisper" preset...You'll need to tweak the preset by upping the dry mix equal with the wet. Doing this will bring the un-effected vocal up in volume to match the effected vocal (which effectively sounds like a "screamed whisper" if that makes sense). Both together give a nice, raspy in your face vocal that seems to mimic the vocal sounds you hear on Iconoclast.

It can be a cool effect if the rest of the mix doesn't seem to exist in that same upper mids area and kill your ear!
 
mmm tue mixed 2 albums I recordes and played in
I really like his work
I like his vocal audio. I know HSB recorded 4 vocal lines and he uses all
 
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