help, guitars sound too up front. IR?

[XxSicRokerxX]

im using CUBASE with several diff types of plugins (amplitube, 8505, soloc, etc) so i pretty much have the tools i need to get a great sound.

My question is why do my guitars sound like they are in my face, when i listen to professional music the guitars sound THIN, sharp, distant, like a lead type of sound but with a low boost (artists like black dahlia murder, necrophagist). If i turn down the volume on the guitar track it just sounds low not thin.

I have also messed with CATHARSIS IR signals, what do you guys guys use to load your IR,they help tremendously but im still not quite there, kefir gives me a much different sound then any other, . Is it perhaps my mixing?

If you could give me some basic tips please let me know. Or if you have any VST recommendations you recommend for beginner records plz let me know.

Also can it be the way i record? Should i record stereo IN Mono OUT or just STEREO or just MONO. Also whats this phenomenon with quad recording does that help?

Thank you guys.

 

[AntonioPetrole]

Read the stickys and use the search function, noone is gonna reply to your post because these questions are asked 1000 times a week. Also, welcome to the forum

Edit: Im Gonna answer your questions on a count of I have nothing better to do at 1am.

"My question is why do my guitars sound like they are in my face, when i listen to professional music the guitars sound THIN, sharp, distant, like a lead type of sound but with a low boost (artists like black dahlia murder, necrophagist). If i turn down the volume on the guitar track it just sounds low not thin."

If you turn down the volume on a guitar track it will only turn down the volume. Mess around with EQ on your guitar track. High gain guitars are mostly driven and distinguished by mids, so dont overdo them, but also dont underdo them. Just experiment and it will come naturally.

"I have also messed with CATHARSIS IR signals, what do you guys guys use to load your IR,they help tremendously but im still not quite there, kefir gives me a much different sound then any other, . Is it perhaps my mixing?"

I personally use lecab as a IR loader and i love it. The quality isnt TOO bug between most loaders, but the quality is a bit better, with say SIR2 vs. the peavey revalver IR loader. There is a thread floating around about this somewhere.

"If you could give me some basic tips please let me know. Or if you have any VST recommendations you recommend for beginner records plz let me know."

Practice Practice practice and soak up everything on this forum like you are a giant sponge.

"Also can it be the way i record? Should i record stereo IN Mono OUT or just STEREO or just MONO. Also whats this phenomenon with quad recording does that help?"

If you are recording guitars DI then you want mono in. Im not sure what "IN Mono OUT" is but you wanna record in mono lol.

Hope that helped you. Its gonna be extremely frustrating trying to get a mix to sound like TBDM or Necrophagist the bat so dont expect it to come easy. Just work at your own pace.

PS: Bass makes up 50% of the guitar tone. Most of the time, when say the bass guitar or something in a mix sounds absolutely huge, its because it was molded and shaped around all the other instruments, and chances are it doesnt sound big by itself. Now im just rambling, feel free to correct me on anything, im extremely tired lol

 

[Redline4]

I have to same problem bro. My bactrack sounds awesome but it's pretty far in the mix and I can't figure out how to make my guitars sit better in my mix :S I think it could be our DI tracks.

 

[XxSicRokerxX]

thank you for being very informative roflsaurusrex. I have searched around quite a bit actually but its just theres no direct answer and i dont expect there to be one so. The more information there is on the topic i adsorb and play with. So thank you. I too actually do use lecab its much better than anything else ive used.