How good are these bands.

Black Friday

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After rummaging through my dads collection I've got some rock stuff, so tell me your opinions on this stuff.
Dire Straits
Foreigner
Michael Hedges
Hiroshima
Traffic
Shadowfax
Yellowjackets
The Cars
 
Dire Straits and Foreigner are top notch pop rock. Foreigner has less filler than Dire Straits imo. All you really need from Dire Straits is a compilation album.
 
I don't feel like actually spending money on them, why do you think I was rummaging through my dads collection? :p Anyways, thanks for the advice.
 
Dire Straits fucking rock; but I'm a huge Mark Knopfler fan. Personally, Knopfler's solo stuff is miles better than any Dire Straits tunes ever were.

Get the following by Knopfler:

The Ragpicker's Dream
Sailing to Philadelphia


Golden Heart is mediocre.
 
We were into the first Dire Straits album quite a bit but I havent heard it in along time. Great guitar work, simple perhaps but Mark was very unique in expression in those days,thats why Dire Straits stood out, awesome fingerstyle single coil tone. I recieved a best of as a gift its great when Im in the mood, most of them have had excessive air play. The songs "Brothers in Arms", "On Every Street" and "Romeo and Juliet" tug at the emotions pretty hard, thus I think they are excellent songs. On the flip side the song "Money for Nothing" always made me want to slam my head off a concrete wall to end the pain, cool opening guitar riff that wont go away soon enough as the song progresses nowhere into Stings nasty falsetto chorus and drags on for a painfull... 4 minutes

Foreigner also had me thinking about the concrete wall as well. Something about steady 1/8th beat bass pedals that at times never even changed pitch for what seemed like hours, combined with equally elementary drum beats... yikes! I dont know, my drummer claims to have really been into them at one point in time so maybe some of the songs that werent on the radio and jukebox every 10 minutes were OK.

Traffic was already an extinct band when I started getting into music, the people a few years older were into them. I had some played for me years ago, cant really remember them. Traffic had Steve Windwood singing... once again... concrete wall, I cant stand the tone of his voice. However they had a guitar player... Dave Mason... now Dave Masons solo work after Traffic was just great good feeling rock music, there was a few albums around back then, cant remember which. Dave also played acoustic guitar on Hendrixs recording of All Along the Watchtower, so thats Dave you hear at the beginning of that song... something I just learned about within the past year.

The Cars first two albums represent lots of good times for me "Let the Good Times Roll" sums it up. Some great songs and once again unique in their day. "Bye Bye Love" will always stand the test of time.

The rest I never heard, but Shadowfax is ringing some bell and now has me very curious. OK, looked them up, seems they were some kind of "new age" fusion, jazz, "electronic" band, appears they were a fairly large band with sax, flute and violin, so must be one of my fusion buddies checked them out and played something for me. Appears the legendary Jerry Goodman did some violin work for them. Jerry was the Mahavishnu Orchestras first violinist and now gigs with The Dixie Dregs when they gig. Check out some Goodman era Mahavishnu on youtube if you want to hear someone playing advanced stuff like todays guitars players long before guitarists ever thought of it. He was the highlight of the Mahavishnu IMO, even looked the part of a metalhead in his younger days... only that was the Hippie thing and not uncommon then.
 
Traffic is pretty cool. Dire Straits burned me out on Sultans of Swing but their stuff might be good. I like Foreigner a lot, despite the cheesy 80s style.
 
Foreigner was actually the cheezy mid-late 70's sound. That crap was all over the air and juke box's my graduation year... '76. Sorry but it represented regression big time for this old LZ/Heep/Cooper/Purple/Rush fan, same way I felt about Kiss... it was like returning to kindergarten... rock for kindergarteners. My opinion of course because the sheep (populus) rode the Kiss, Foreigner train pretty hard late 70's as well as.... disco..... thank god for Kansas, Dire Straits, and The Cars, something different, something with some integrity
 
I like Goodman as well. In both the Dregs, and Mahavishnu. But, John Luc Ponty- I like his style a little better. Yeah Foreigner is good pop rock. Lou Graham is a good singer, but I feel the same....there were so many bands before, and upcoming that had more to their music.
 
Another Ponty fan... ey ? Seems to me Ponty was more melodic and Goodman aggresive. I think Goodmans "faster" and possibly more... whats the word ? accurate, precise at speed, Pontys over all work is more notable. I'm abit of a Sloan man myself... something about the Dregs man. All those violinists slayed, Goodman, Ponty, Sloan, Steinhardt and of course Charlie Daniels. Violin in rock fluxed music seemed to fade after the 70's and headed back to its classical, jazz or country rootes. Not that its a typical jazz instrument.

found this new Goodman... pretty f'in sick.... edit:wait for the solo


then theres this which is pretty f'in sick too... Im thinking I need to get some Goodman
 
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There was this death metal band called Ebony Tears, and their first album called Tortua Insomniae was so good. It had a violin player on it. Now I know that At the Gates had a violinist on The Red Sky Is Ours album, but it was at times a mess(to me) and in the way here and there. But the violin on Ebony Tear's album was really melodic. Ironically, their next 2 albums were good, but without the violin, and they decided to sound just like..:rolleyes:..At the Gates! I remember meeting Goodman a few years ago after their show, touring with Dream Theater. I couldn't believe how I was at a loss for words, and with the man, Steve Morse as well. it took me about 2 minutes to catch my brain, put it back in my head, and re-focus to chat a few minutes with them!
 
I remember back awhile on this UM forum one of the side advertisments or maybe in the promotion section somewhere had a progressive band with a violinist. Sounded great too, I was psyched... but then the vocals kicked in and I was done. My loss I guess.

Didnt we do a great job hijacking this thread into a modern Violinist thred ?..... lol..... deserved its own thred actually
 
Another good use of violin and cello was on Celestial Seasons(Finland) album Solar Lovers. Good doom with gruff vocals, not death vocals. Some clean singing here and there. A bit gothic, and a bit stoner groove. Ver poetic lyrics. They covered an Ultravox(early 80's progressive new wave)song called Vienna. I love cello, and violin...it's my favorite instrument.