I Love Floyds Thread::Show Your Appreciation

16S

16S

all gods fail...
Apr 14, 2007
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:rock::rock:actually its a I Love Trems thread. Floyds a brand name as we know:u-huh:

So cumon! Fuck the hard tail crowd! Lets and post pics, talk tech & celebrate the trem!:kickass:

This one: the Gotoh is my favourite, IMO better than the original Floyd. Utterly fantastic design. It came std with my Warlock in 1991 and is still tune perfect. Check how nice the subtle curvey design is. Much better than the "sit up and beg" Floyd Rose Orig :heh:
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And this is gotohs Edge Pro7 that Ibanez stuck on some of its gtrs in late 90s and early 2000 before replacing it with the not so good EP2. Its on my Universe and kicks arse for the Lord!!
I have to periodically wrap PTFE tape around the base of the arm to keep it tight for fluttering so arm-wise design not as good as its older relative above. But hey its still awesome: does the work of 3 men and a boy!
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I have a complete love hate relationship with tremolo bridges. They have brought me complete joy at certain times and caused me more frustration than probably any other single piece of equipment. I look at them as I do any other tool for creativity - they can be used in so many ways to say what you are trying to say musically. But damn can they be truly maddening at times.
 
I've got several guitars with trems...
the ofr is the bst IMO...
tuning stability and whammy handling are the best with OFR and schaller FRII, Sound is the best with OFR and Gotoh.
overall I'd rate them:
1. OFR
2. Schaller FRII
3. Gotoh (sorry, but you just can't beat the way shacller and OFR fastens the bar to the trem...as loose or firm as you want and you can spin it as often as you want without "screwing it on to the limit"...also flutter effects etc work better with the OFR and SchallerII)...still, the gotoh is a great trem.
3. olschool Jackson (the schaller like one but with the little palm-rest-plates and the screws at the rear=
4.
5. Kahler Spyder
6. ESP oldschool thingy
7.
8.
9.
10. all the crap ibanez comes up with
 
As a "guitartech", i have to say that i f*ing hate them.. as a player, i LOVE them!
Im getting an OFR for my Washburn WG580 as soon as i can afford it.
The floyd thats on it right now sucks, because the metal its made of is so soft that the knifes only hold for a few days(Even if you dont play.). :/

And i agree with your top 3 there Lasse.
At 4 i would have to put Kahler Flyer though!
Stable as hell, more accurate then Floyd's(As its suspended in ball bearings.), doesnt require any rear-routing, the other strings doesnt follow as much when you are bending.. what i dont like is that you cant flutter, and i dont like the position of the bar either.
 
I've got an ESP Alexi with an Original Floyd Rose and it's unreal how even with lots of tension with lower tuning and huge strings it still holds tuning perfectly after dive bombs.
 
Ibanez Edge Pro-7 user here with locking stud mod.
I will put it up against any OFR or Lo-Pro anyday:rock:
 
Notuern said:
As a "guitartech", i have to say that i f*ing hate them.. as a player, i LOVE them!
Im getting an OFR for my Washburn WG580 as soon as i can afford it.
The floyd thats on it right now sucks, because the metal its made of is so soft that the knifes only hold for a few days(Even if you dont play.). :/

And i agree with your top 3 there Lasse.
At 4 i would have to put Kahler Flyer though!
Stable as hell, more accurate then Floyd's(As its suspended in ball bearings.), doesnt require any rear-routing, the other strings doesnt follow as much when you are bending.. what i dont like is that you cant flutter, and i dont like the position of the bar either.
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I would have picked the flyer, but I thought only proper/real floyd designs count...and since the spyder was Kahler's shot at it ;)
 
Lasse Lammert said:
3. Gotoh (sorry, but you just can't beat the way shacller and OFR fastens the bar to the trem...as loose or firm as you want and you can spin it as often as you want without "screwing it on to the limit"...also flutter effects etc work better with the OFR and SchallerII)...still, the gotoh is a great trem.
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Lasse, the gotoh has an allen key socket for exactly what you just described dude, which makes it much greater than the OFR in my experience. With OFR I always have the screw getting a little loose too quickly for my liking. I have the ultra violet series trem on one of mine- maybe this is different or updated from older versions?
 
@Kev: agreed, Gotoh use good quality materials and apply good designs. My 20 yr old trem on my Warlock and i guess the one Lasse's ST3 is testament to that:kickass:

@Executioner213: Dude what trem is on the Ibanez? OFR? was it a simple retro fit?

@Jind: why the frustration? I don't find anything frustrating about a trem. Once you understand how the thing works your set. Obivously if you are tuning down to A or something you may find it difficult to intonate but general set up for floating just requires a bit of patience. The geeky thing is i actually think trems look really nice. They are a real nice engineering solution where form and function are having the best fuck ever!

@Lasse: "all the crap that ibanez come up with"..i am assuming you are excluding the stuff that gotoh makes for them and you just mean all Ibanez's OEM trems that might as well be made out of brass?
also i don't agree with your Floyd arm comment. My experience with that arm design is; if you want flutter from the OFR you HAVE to have the arm collar tight otherwise if its loosened (for arm swing) when you flick the arm, the slop in the loose fitting "absorbs" your flick hence no flutter.

@Notuern: Dude, i didnt have any good experience with Kahlers, except for perhaps the smooth action, although it feels very weird if you are used to knife edge trems. With all the Kahlers i have tried including the latest units if you string bend, eg double stop, the tuning goes out until you reset the trem with a quick dive. It is a flaw in the design of the trem that can't handle the lateral movement of a bend. I was told that you can help remedy it to some degree by adding solder to the string ball ends and putting a hard bend in the string to ensure good seating. But cumon, that just makes me think the unit is a pile of shite...And to top it off the bar has that stupid blob on the end?? Why ?? i can understand in the 70's but hello 21st century - it looks horrible....like it was designed for someone who has a disability in gripping things:lol:

@Harry Hughes: +1, it was a bad decision of Ibanezs to forego the locking studs on the newer set up

@Bekanor: yep! quality item from Gotoh!

@SimonSez: the gotoh trem in the OP has a brass sustain block as std. dunno whether it really makes any difference though. Guess if you worry that much about sustain dont buy a solid bodied gtr with a big hole cut out the middle of it:u-huh:
 
16S said:
@Lasse: "all the crap that ibanez come up with"..i am assuming you are excluding the stuff that gotoh makes for them and you just mean all Ibanez's OEM trems that might as well be made out of brass?
also i don't agree with your Floyd arm comment. My experience with that arm design is; if you want flutter from the OFR you HAVE to have the arm collar tight otherwise if its loosened (for arm swing) when you flick the arm, the slop in the loose fitting "absorbs" your flick hence no flutter.
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That nailed it for me. This is why I despise floyd rose. I've never manage to achieve a decent level of flutter and the loose fitting is a disaster IMO.
 
Also like old jackson`s tremolo (JT6), because of mentioned specs, tunamatic string spacing and built-in capability of fixation (screw in the sustain block on later units). String length adjustment on this tremolo is much easier than on conventional floyds.
 
I never liked those old jackson units. But to be fair i only used one on a charvel i owned. I didnt like the way that to turn the fine tuners (which stuck out the back of the unit) you often "moved" the trem. Perhaps i had a shitty block because i found i had to be fairly heavy handed to turn the tuner.
 
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