I think my 5150 II is dying

Room36

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I bought this amp used about a years ago and since then I had no problem with it. About a month ago, it started to make some strange sounds when I turn the standby on and off. Now I get these weird noise every time I turn off the standby and it is much louder than it was before. I don't want to use it anymore because I am afraid to blow a speaker in my cab or to damage the amp more than it is right now. I know I should take it to an amp tech but I don't have a big budget for the repair and I can't wait 3 weeks (I called and they told me it's a minimum of 2-3 weeks) or more to get my amp back since I have a couple gigs coming in this month. I recorded a couple of videos of the problems in the hope that maybe someone here will be able to point the problem.

The videos where shooted with no effect in the signal chain. Guitar straight in the amp and the amp straight in the cab.

So here is what happens :

The amp was turned on and I had let it heat for about 5 minutes, when I turn the standby switch to off, this is what happens :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leNl7PqprEw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxd2t0Vb9sg
This loud BANG is at the same loudness at any level.

When the standby is off, I can play with the amp without any problem. I don't get any weird noise or hum or anything, it's just working great for about 20 minutes.
After about 20 minutes of playing, the level of the sound drop and the post knob does not change the level of the sound anymore (it will sound the same at 2 and 7) and I get some weird static noise that fade in and out.
I tried to shoot a video of that fading in and out sound but it seems that my phone have a noise gate in it and it did not capture the sound very well. When this problem happens, if I turn the standby on, I get a LOUD static noise fade out.

Post knob not doing anything, weird fading in and out static noise + loud static noise at the end :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kupXv4obUKQ

If I turn the standby off again, I get a loud static noise fade again and the post knob is still not doing anything. I have to close the amp for about 10 minutes to let it get back to normal (by normal I mean just doing the loud bang thing haha).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXD3YsRiuKY

Also, I did notice that when the post is at 0, I still can hear my guitar through the amp. Before all these problems started the happen, when the post was at 0 the amp was completely silent.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90GMszuEGBA

I hope someone here will be able to help me out ! If you guys know a better place to ask this kind of question please tell me. And by the way, sorry if my english was not perfect, it is not my primary language.

Thanks !
 
When was the amp last retubed?

Failing output tranny maybe? I don't know a whole lot about these symptoms though.

FWIW, my 5150 still produces guitar signal even when the volume is on 0, but that's the least of your worries right now.
 
My 5150 mkI has been doing the same thing lately, similar symptoms not as bad. I will give it a 99% chance that is is the power tubes and 1% chance (if even that really) filter caps.

Dying tubes can do some weird shit, and socket oxidation doesn't help. Tube characteristics can go all over the place when they begin to fail so its like bertie botts ever flavor beans when it comes to symptoms, you never know what you are going to get.
 
Sounds like bad tubes for me. I had similar problem with my Marshall.
BTW, are you connecting that cab with speaker cables right? =)

EDIT: How are you connecting this amp to the energy? I just saw a "filter type" ruler there... Be careful with this things + amp heads
 
When was the amp last retubed?

Failing output tranny maybe? I don't know a whole lot about these symptoms though.

FWIW, my 5150 still produces guitar signal even when the volume is on 0, but that's the least of your worries right now.

I bought the amp about 1 year ago and the told me he had just retubed the amp. Everyone is telling me that the power tubes might be the problem so I'm starting to think that what the guy told me was not true..
 
I bought the amp about 1 year ago and the told me he had just retubed the amp. Everyone is telling me that the power tubes might be the problem so I'm starting to think that what the guy told me was not true..

Already replied to you on UG... but tubes can really fail at any time. Just because they were retubed last year doesn't really mean you're going to get years of use out of them. This IS the norm - but it really depends on how much you use the amp and sometimes tubes just don't last as long because of a manufacturing defect, etc.
 
I'd also guess power tubes. Easy to find out. Just buy some new :)
Or maybe check the tube sockets and maybe resolder them. But don't kill yourself please