Is In Flames still melodeath?

[hibernal_dream]

That's like preferring to eat sewer discharge over human feces.

 

[The Ozzman]

Have you ever eaten sewer discharge? It's good in different parts of the city here.

 

[waif]

Then what's the distinction between Melodic Death Metal and Death Metal? It's hard to imagine Death Metal without any melody whatsoever.

Fail.

it's just a term made up by fans of in flames because they got tired of people calling them pussy fag metallers.

ATG was the original melodic death metal, tbh...

 

[stefan86]

In Flames never were a Death Metal band in the first place.

 

[DEAD-BEAT]

In my opinion: In Flames are still melodic death metal. Sure, there is a development of styles, and new ideas that have sprung up. But the bottom line is: In Flames invented Melodic Death Metal together with ATG and DT, this still sounds alot like Melo-Death, the guitars are there, the harsh vocals, they´ve used synths, clean vocals and samples since Colony, I see a progressive evolution, not a huge change after Clayman.
Weather you wanna call them melodic death metal or not depends on how you define melo-death. I define melodic death metal as melodic metal, with dual guitars, some usage of double-bass, hard guitarwork but still melodic and catchy. I find that In Flames still fits that description.
If you then say: "We can´t call In Flames melo-death, cause they don´t sound like death metal!!" Do you honestly think that any In Flames album sounds like cannibal corpse? Even the Jester Race has some catchy hooks, and still has those elements that describe melo-death.

EDIT: Just struck me: If you think that the "At The Gates" sound is the only thing that should be classified as Melo-Death, don´t include In Flames. In Flames was influenced by At The Gates, but has never sounded that similar IMO. The Jester Race is hugely different from "Slaughter of the Soul"

 

[Black Friday]

Except I'd rather listen to Soundtrack to Your Escape than Risk, TWNAH and UA

Which is why I happen to not value your opinion at all.

 

[waif]

In my opinion: In Flames are still melodic death metal.

Good call.

But the bottom line is: In Flames invented Melodic Death Metal together with ATG and DT

That's a bad reason - Bathory pioneered black metal but would you call Nordland black metal?

I see a progressive evolution, not a huge change after Clayman.

In fact, this one is even a bit of a regression towards the sound on Clayman.

If you then say: "We can´t call In Flames melo-death, cause they don´t sound like death metal!!" Do you honestly think that any In Flames album sounds like cannibal corpse? Even the Jester Race has some catchy hooks, and still has those elements that describe melo-death.

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EDIT: Just struck me: If you think that the "At The Gates" sound is the only thing that should be classified as Melo-Death, don´t include In Flames. In Flames was influenced by At The Gates, but has never sounded that similar IMO. The Jester Race is hugely different from "Slaughter of the Soul"

BAD.
First, this board more or less hates SotS. But the more valid comparison would be Lunar Strain and With Fear or Terminal Spirit...and it's a somewhat valid comparison.

 

[The Ozzman]

Which is why I happen to not value your opinion at all.

Just keep telling yourself UA was a true return to form for Dave and Co and all will be well

 

[waif]

It wasn't a return to form so much as a new direction - an old school approach to modern thrash.

 

[Black Friday]

Just keep telling yourself UA was a true return to form for Dave and Co and all will be well

The return to form was TSHF, UA was just a slight add-on that I felt OK with.

 

[waif]

TSHF was Mustaine trying to cope with the fact that he couldn't really play guitar anymore.

 

[The Ozzman]

Except TSHF is the best thing Megadeth has done since Cryptic Writings

 

[waif]

Well, considering what lies between Cryptic and TSHF, I'm inclined to agree...

aside from UA.

 

[The Ozzman]

UA is garbage. I'd rather listen to TWNAH than that.

 

[The Ozzman]

Anyway, let's rank IF albums now (from most to least favorite):

1) Reroute to Remain
2) Whoracle
3) Jester Race
4) Come Clarity
5) Clayman
6) Colony
7) Lunar Strain
8) Soundtrack

 

[waif]

1. Subterranean
2. The Jester Race
3. Clayman
4. Lunar Strain
5. Colony
6. Whoracle
7. Come Clarity
and STYE and R2R I don't want to list, as they just pull the list down...

 

[The Ozzman]

Subterranean is an EP and doesn't count

 

[King Richard]

I remember when I liked In Flames. Actually got to see them live during the period as well.

 

[waif]

Subterranean is an EP and doesn't count

It's their best release, so I count it.
Also, with the bonus tracks from the rerelease its more or less album length.

 

[rms]

Doesnt Mikael from Dark Tranquility sing on that EP?