Random confusing points and views of mine, in other words this is not well written and bounces all over hell:
Alot of that is old news. I've heard Killing Floor and knew right away thats where part of the lyrics came from, however the song (Lemon Song) in not the same. They listed Willie Dixon a few times on "I" if I recall. The Whole Lotta love thing I would like to hear as well as Stairway. I agree its wrong to plagorize. I also remember thinking how poor and silly the lyrics on especially the first two albums were and that they reminded of the old blues lyrics. That said, they made music for those songs in a way that was unlike anything heard before. I cant speak for the Yardbirds sound. Anything Ive heard by them which is little I really dont like. No where in that artical does it state that Page used Becks solos, only that he took old Yardbird ideas and jams, finished them and recorded them and took credit for them. I've always know the funk rythmn from The Crunge was similiar to typical funk jams. Wasnt there a cliche Nashville country song on Physical Graffiti ? BFD!
Nice that they leave out how fickle the music industry itself was in those days and put it all on Page. Im not saying its not wrong but they (Zep & managment) did what ever they did to make it and its a page in hard rocks history that would be all fucked up if it was missing.
Beck and Page play nothing alike. I have heard some of Becks early works back in the 70's and made NO Zeppelin or Page connection what so ever. If a relisten today would prove similiarities I would say big deal, its common for two players that played together to pick up on each other.
I never remember hearing it said that Page was the first to take a bow to a guitar. I bet it was done even earlier than the people they mention.
Led Zeppelin 1 was a blues album taken heavy... well NO SHIT! I knew that when I was a kid back in the day. Blues onto itself was not very origional. Not writting your own lyrics is another thing. But Hendrix, Clapton & Page took the blues further. If Beck did I cant say, and I am a Beck fan, but more of his later stuff in the mid 70's when he was inspired into fusion by Tommy Bolin and Jan Hammer, best move he ever made because the Jeff Beck Group did not take him very far, it was Blow by Blow and Wired that set him at the forefront of guitar men.
This author is another one trying to place old heavy blues and hard rockers as origionaters of metal but its bullshit. Big influence yes but the sound and technique is totally different. The psychodelic angle of his I dont get because I never heard Zep do the psychodelic thing. In fact they may have put an end to it. That shit got old quick and ended quick in the late 60's.
I was/am also a huge Humble Pie fan. Rockin the Fillmore KICKED ASS in its day and introduced us to the young Peter Frampton. Humble Pie is the band that Steve Marriot of the Small Faces put together after the Small Faces. They were a hard rock/boogie band for sure but sound nothing like Led Zeppelin. Marriot had a great voice, high shrill raspy and powerful voice and Im not suprised to hear that he influenced Robert Plant but Plants voice was his own not Marriots. Humble Pies riffs and runs were nothing like Pages. Many of Peter Framptons signature voiced licks and improv can be heard on Rockin the Fillmore that he revisted on the infamous "Frampton Comes Alive" = should we shoot him ? Hell today Ive heard "the greatest guitar players ever" repeat licks or multi note runs multiple times in the same friggin solo. Its not uncommon for a guitar player to pull out old tricks or riffs he never really finished into something he was satisfied with.
Theres no excuse for not giving credit where credit is due but that doesnt change the fact that Led Zeppelin was a one of a kind band that severely changed the face of rock and stood at the forefront of hard rock. Then in their maturity they continously evolved and Physical Graffiti and Presence were great recordings.
Led Zeppelin is the same as I recently said about Hendrix, they were great and really changed music but people need to know and accept their short falls and see them as they really are not flawless and not Gods, just very very important in the big picture.
Stairway to Heaven still kicks ass but its time for the radio to stop playing it.
Alot of that is old news. I've heard Killing Floor and knew right away thats where part of the lyrics came from, however the song (Lemon Song) in not the same. They listed Willie Dixon a few times on "I" if I recall. The Whole Lotta love thing I would like to hear as well as Stairway. I agree its wrong to plagorize. I also remember thinking how poor and silly the lyrics on especially the first two albums were and that they reminded of the old blues lyrics. That said, they made music for those songs in a way that was unlike anything heard before. I cant speak for the Yardbirds sound. Anything Ive heard by them which is little I really dont like. No where in that artical does it state that Page used Becks solos, only that he took old Yardbird ideas and jams, finished them and recorded them and took credit for them. I've always know the funk rythmn from The Crunge was similiar to typical funk jams. Wasnt there a cliche Nashville country song on Physical Graffiti ? BFD!
Nice that they leave out how fickle the music industry itself was in those days and put it all on Page. Im not saying its not wrong but they (Zep & managment) did what ever they did to make it and its a page in hard rocks history that would be all fucked up if it was missing.
Beck and Page play nothing alike. I have heard some of Becks early works back in the 70's and made NO Zeppelin or Page connection what so ever. If a relisten today would prove similiarities I would say big deal, its common for two players that played together to pick up on each other.
I never remember hearing it said that Page was the first to take a bow to a guitar. I bet it was done even earlier than the people they mention.
Led Zeppelin 1 was a blues album taken heavy... well NO SHIT! I knew that when I was a kid back in the day. Blues onto itself was not very origional. Not writting your own lyrics is another thing. But Hendrix, Clapton & Page took the blues further. If Beck did I cant say, and I am a Beck fan, but more of his later stuff in the mid 70's when he was inspired into fusion by Tommy Bolin and Jan Hammer, best move he ever made because the Jeff Beck Group did not take him very far, it was Blow by Blow and Wired that set him at the forefront of guitar men.
This author is another one trying to place old heavy blues and hard rockers as origionaters of metal but its bullshit. Big influence yes but the sound and technique is totally different. The psychodelic angle of his I dont get because I never heard Zep do the psychodelic thing. In fact they may have put an end to it. That shit got old quick and ended quick in the late 60's.
I was/am also a huge Humble Pie fan. Rockin the Fillmore KICKED ASS in its day and introduced us to the young Peter Frampton. Humble Pie is the band that Steve Marriot of the Small Faces put together after the Small Faces. They were a hard rock/boogie band for sure but sound nothing like Led Zeppelin. Marriot had a great voice, high shrill raspy and powerful voice and Im not suprised to hear that he influenced Robert Plant but Plants voice was his own not Marriots. Humble Pies riffs and runs were nothing like Pages. Many of Peter Framptons signature voiced licks and improv can be heard on Rockin the Fillmore that he revisted on the infamous "Frampton Comes Alive" = should we shoot him ? Hell today Ive heard "the greatest guitar players ever" repeat licks or multi note runs multiple times in the same friggin solo. Its not uncommon for a guitar player to pull out old tricks or riffs he never really finished into something he was satisfied with.
Theres no excuse for not giving credit where credit is due but that doesnt change the fact that Led Zeppelin was a one of a kind band that severely changed the face of rock and stood at the forefront of hard rock. Then in their maturity they continously evolved and Physical Graffiti and Presence were great recordings.
Led Zeppelin is the same as I recently said about Hendrix, they were great and really changed music but people need to know and accept their short falls and see them as they really are not flawless and not Gods, just very very important in the big picture.
Stairway to Heaven still kicks ass but its time for the radio to stop playing it.
