whenever i think about the 80's i realize that, maybe some of you can verify this for me.. people used to be able to be ugly AND famous. like, singers, actresses... band members.. now only a select few guys get away with it, and also, what happened to all the OLD people? like, where the fuck are they?. the rest have to be surgery perfect. it's very strange to me. the more disheveled humans actually get, the more they fall apart.... the more bizarrely detached the celebrities get.