J.R.R. Tolkien: 113th Birthday Toast tonight

Androz said:
I didnt like how they put Faramir as a "bad guy"
Faramir was never a bad guy....he only was shown in the movies as a son desparately wanting the same love and acceptance that his father lavished upon his brother, Boromir....he was never shown to be bad....in fact, he led a failed attack on the orcs in order to try to reclaim Osgilath for his father....he was simply an emotionally abused child that wanted paternal acceptance and love.....
 
soundgarden said:
For me it was an ok read. I did not hate it but I did not like it either. My english teacher made a huge fuss about it though. She loved it like it was the greatest story ever. She also believed that Shakespeare was female.
I thought Sir Francis Bacon wrote Shakespeare... :rolleyes:
 
Ayreon Guardian X said:
Faramir was never a bad guy....he only was shown in the movies as a son desparately wanting the same love and acceptance that his father lavished upon his brother, Boromir....he was never shown to be bad....in fact, he led a failed attack on the orcs in order to try to reclaim Osgilath for his father....he was simply an emotionally abused child that wanted paternal acceptance and love.....
I think he means that Faramir, in the movie, was more susceptible to the ring's power than he was in the book. I thought it was kinda lame, too.
 
Ayreon Guardian X said:
Faramir was never a bad guy....he only was shown in the movies as a son desparately wanting the same love and acceptance that his father lavished upon his brother, Boromir....he was never shown to be bad....in fact, he led a failed attack on the orcs in order to try to reclaim Osgilath for his father....he was simply an emotionally abused child that wanted paternal acceptance and love.....


That scene was so well played. From his father wishing he had died in his brothers place to Faramir's slow march to Osgiliath. Peter Jackson is a film genius.
 
Beelzebub said:
Shakespeare as a woman? Interesting... did she ever tell you her arguments?

She said most of the evidence was in his (her?) writing. She also said he dressed as a male for two reasons. One was to avoid the typical female stereotype at that time. Secondly, he(she)was gay.