I have no idea what the fuck you just said, dude.Troyanasy said:
I don't live in Hamilton anymore, though, I'm in Vancouver now.
Judas Priest
- Thread starter Pancakes
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I don't live in Hamilton anymore, though, I'm in Vancouver now.
BigBronco4x4
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i don't remember man i told you i played it like a year ago, i usually play every game on normal the first time and then on hard for a second time if its a good gamePancakes said:
easy mode is for pussies
and as for the guy with gay pic in his sig
manowar fucking suckslisten to cryptopsy
EVERLOSTINDEADETERNITY
I hate wiener dogs. Dreadful creatures.
Ive Played Dungeons And Dragons And Warhammer Though. Oh And Manowar Doesnt Suck. PRIEST ROCKS. MANOWAR FUCKING ROCKS TOO. BLACK WIND FIRE AND STEEL AHHHHHHHHHH.
BigBronco4x4 said:
YOU FAIL.
Sad Wigns of Destiny, Sin AFter Sin, and Stained Class are three of the mosti mportant albums in all of metal history.
And of course, Painkiller is the fucking heart and soul of heavy metal.
\m/ to Troy for the Piledriver shit. Are they really reuinted?
Check out rocknrolla.....
nice hippie300tabs..lsd groove
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REVIEW 'Rocka Rolla' is not a great album. Recently, Priest apologists, in view of the band's undoubted greatness from 'Sad Wings Of Destiny' onwards, have attempted to refabricate the historical impact of their 1974 debut. Don't be fooled. 'Rocka Rolla' is a record that, without 'Sad Wings' and subsequent events, may well have been destined for the files of obscure and mildly interesting 70s curios.
The band is not really at fault here as a number of factors were weighted against them. Although they had already by this juncture honed a degree of malevolence their name implies on the UK club circuit, much of this mystique was stripped away. For a reason never adequately explained, belated classics such as 'Victim Of Changes', 'Tyrant', 'Ripper' and 'Genocide' were denied inclusion. They would, of course, find their rightful inclusion on 'Sad Wings' but when these songs were available and road tested who on earth opted to go for rather leaden workouts such as Pub Rocker 'One For The Road', the lumbering 'Dying To Meet You' and pedestrian 'Run Of The Mill' in their stead?
Another anomaly is 'Caviar And Meths'. Priest had been using this track as their live tour de force, an epic workout that would often morph into extended jam workouts. Here it is neutered, hung, drawn and (quite literally) quartered to become a shadow of its glorious self. A shame Priest appear to have no inclination to issue the live version of 'Caviar' because it really does kill.
The overall sound of this album is, by today's standards, exceptionally weak. Yes the recording was rushed but that never gave Sabbath any problems. The guitars are polite background pussycats rather than in your face predators expected of Downing and Tipton. Perversely Ian Hill, so often aurally neglected on the bulk of the band's catalogue, is given free rein to shine here simply because there is so much vacuum to fill. It is only really Rob Halford that escapes the weak production. His vocals simply soar, only being marred by some rather clumsy studio vocal FX. Numerous attempts were made at re-hashing and re-mastering the album as Priest's star ascended but truthfully the raw materials will always scupper any real hopes of finding some long, lost heaviness here.
The title track canters along at a brisk pace and is almost happy in its disposition. Obviously Gull Records thought enough of its potential at the time for it to influence the entire artistic thrust of the record. Odd to hear Rob waxing lyrical about the fairer sex too.
Best track is obviously 'Never Satisfied', a song many Priest devotees would wish to see a further concert airing. Thankfully this song at least manages to summon up some muscle despite everything. This, alongside the short and sharp viciousness of 'Cheater', would easily nestle in comfortably on 'Sin After Sin' or 'Stained Class'. Overall though 'Rocka Rolla' is not high on major riff content. Again, bizarre when you ponder on just what material they had waiting in the wings.
Naturally 'Rocka Rolla' is a must have for Priest completists. Just don't go expecting anything of the magnitude of later works. Remember, KK was still wearing floppy hats in 1974
nice hippie300tabs..lsd groove
===
REVIEW 'Rocka Rolla' is not a great album. Recently, Priest apologists, in view of the band's undoubted greatness from 'Sad Wings Of Destiny' onwards, have attempted to refabricate the historical impact of their 1974 debut. Don't be fooled. 'Rocka Rolla' is a record that, without 'Sad Wings' and subsequent events, may well have been destined for the files of obscure and mildly interesting 70s curios.
The band is not really at fault here as a number of factors were weighted against them. Although they had already by this juncture honed a degree of malevolence their name implies on the UK club circuit, much of this mystique was stripped away. For a reason never adequately explained, belated classics such as 'Victim Of Changes', 'Tyrant', 'Ripper' and 'Genocide' were denied inclusion. They would, of course, find their rightful inclusion on 'Sad Wings' but when these songs were available and road tested who on earth opted to go for rather leaden workouts such as Pub Rocker 'One For The Road', the lumbering 'Dying To Meet You' and pedestrian 'Run Of The Mill' in their stead?
Another anomaly is 'Caviar And Meths'. Priest had been using this track as their live tour de force, an epic workout that would often morph into extended jam workouts. Here it is neutered, hung, drawn and (quite literally) quartered to become a shadow of its glorious self. A shame Priest appear to have no inclination to issue the live version of 'Caviar' because it really does kill.
The overall sound of this album is, by today's standards, exceptionally weak. Yes the recording was rushed but that never gave Sabbath any problems. The guitars are polite background pussycats rather than in your face predators expected of Downing and Tipton. Perversely Ian Hill, so often aurally neglected on the bulk of the band's catalogue, is given free rein to shine here simply because there is so much vacuum to fill. It is only really Rob Halford that escapes the weak production. His vocals simply soar, only being marred by some rather clumsy studio vocal FX. Numerous attempts were made at re-hashing and re-mastering the album as Priest's star ascended but truthfully the raw materials will always scupper any real hopes of finding some long, lost heaviness here.
The title track canters along at a brisk pace and is almost happy in its disposition. Obviously Gull Records thought enough of its potential at the time for it to influence the entire artistic thrust of the record. Odd to hear Rob waxing lyrical about the fairer sex too.
Best track is obviously 'Never Satisfied', a song many Priest devotees would wish to see a further concert airing. Thankfully this song at least manages to summon up some muscle despite everything. This, alongside the short and sharp viciousness of 'Cheater', would easily nestle in comfortably on 'Sin After Sin' or 'Stained Class'. Overall though 'Rocka Rolla' is not high on major riff content. Again, bizarre when you ponder on just what material they had waiting in the wings.
Naturally 'Rocka Rolla' is a must have for Priest completists. Just don't go expecting anything of the magnitude of later works. Remember, KK was still wearing floppy hats in 1974
BigBronco4x4
Offroader
How so? There could be an argument against Manowar I suppose, but Maiden shit all over Priest many times over.Pyrus blazing said:
IOfTheStorm
Gogol Bordello
Iron Maiden were definetally more influential than the (very influential too) J.P.
Also
Manowar rule them all
Also
Manowar rule them all
NinjaKitten
YOINK!
Lies and Perfidy
Gentleman of the Road
Sorry, Priest is way more influential than Maiden because Priest influenced Maiden. Maiden's glory era (80s Dickinson) material is so obviously influenced by Stained Class...the gallops, the lead guitar melody lines, the speed metal riffage...listen to "Exciter" and "Moonchild" and you'll see what I mean.
Not to take anything away from Maiden, cause they're a fucking awesome band, but Priest is more innovative than Maiden, more consistent than Maiden, and was heavier in 1978 than Maiden has ever been.
Not to take anything away from Maiden, cause they're a fucking awesome band, but Priest is more innovative than Maiden, more consistent than Maiden, and was heavier in 1978 than Maiden has ever been.
IOfTheStorm
Gogol Bordello
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First of all:An Example: Coven, a 60s band influenced Black Sabbath. Are Coven more infuential than Black Sabbath? Are the influences of Deep Purple more influential than Deep Purple? The influences of Pink Floyd more influential than Pink Floyd? etc etc etc etc .
Second: Iron Maiden's greatest influence was 70s prog rock. Case Closed. If you know about 70s prog rock, you can hear that. J.P. had no prog rock influence. Both band's music is SO different, and their only common thing is that they are both heavy metal. Also the lead double guitar melodies of Iron Maiden have NO SIMILAR THING to J.P.. They are more in the vein of Wishbone Ash for example than J.P. Also the bands' rythm section was totally different and if J.P. played "speed metal" once, then Maiden played it 45456 times.
Then: Iron Maiden influenced basically all u.s. metal. You hear more bands talking about Iron Maiden than J.P. .
J.P. never made an album as innovative as "Seventh Son Of A Seventh Son", or "Somewhere In Time"
Profanity
The Post Master
Lies and Perfidy
Gentleman of the Road
Alright, I get the logical fallacy behind "Priest influenced Maiden." They were more innovative is what I meant to say.
Saying that Priest and Maiden have nothing in common is just ridiculous. I'm not a musical expert, but the similarity in sound is definitely there. Compare Powerslave to Stained Class; it's the whole aesthetic, the gallop riffing and focus on quick lead guitar licks. I didn't think to myself till I read an essay on it someone posted...then I gave those albums a listen and lo and behold, it was there. I'll try and find it.
Sure they did. Sad Wings of Destiny, Sin After Sin and Stained Class. NOTHING sounded like those did when they came out.
Saying that Priest and Maiden have nothing in common is just ridiculous. I'm not a musical expert, but the similarity in sound is definitely there. Compare Powerslave to Stained Class; it's the whole aesthetic, the gallop riffing and focus on quick lead guitar licks. I didn't think to myself till I read an essay on it someone posted...then I gave those albums a listen and lo and behold, it was there. I'll try and find it.
Sure they did. Sad Wings of Destiny, Sin After Sin and Stained Class. NOTHING sounded like those did when they came out.
BigBronco4x4
Offroader
More innovative? I wouldn't be surprised at all, I'll admit I am not famililar with Priest's entire catalog, but has Maiden been doing the same thing for all of their 25 or so years (not that it's necessarily a bad thing).. Influencial? Sure, Priest was apart of the New Wave of British Heavy Metal or whatever it's called and they were formed a couple of years before Harris formed Maiden, at least good Maiden (with Bruce) so I have no doubt that Judas Priest inspired alot of bands, the same could be said for Black Sabbath and the Amboy Dukes. Who are the Amboy Dukes? Exactly.
Saying Judas Pries is better than Iron Maiden because they came first and influenced them is almost like saying Pearl Jam is better than Creed for the same reason.
Iron Maiden played better and faster and Dickinson is an exceptionally better singer than Halford.
Saying Judas Pries is better than Iron Maiden because they came first and influenced them is almost like saying Pearl Jam is better than Creed for the same reason.
Iron Maiden played better and faster and Dickinson is an exceptionally better singer than Halford.
Lies and Perfidy
Gentleman of the Road
Now you're just stating opinion. I find Priest to be better.
Pearl Jam IS better than Creed, and I don't really like Pearl Jam.
Pearl Jam IS better than Creed, and I don't really like Pearl Jam.
EVERLOSTINDEADETERNITY
I hate wiener dogs. Dreadful creatures.
I Think Priest Is Way More Influential But I Like Maiden More. They Have More Songs That I Like. But Night Crawler And Electric Eye Are Two Of My Fav. Priest Songs. Manowar Rocks Ass But I Dont Think They Are Better Then Maiden Or Priest. Til The Blood On Your Sword Is The Blood Of A King Yaahhhhhhh!!!!!! KING DIAMOND AND ROB HALFORD SHOULD DO A DOU, OH HELLS YEAH.
Priest was my first metal band that I got into as a kid...and British Steele was the first record I ever bought. They had the groove and weren't afraid to add rock n roll to metal mix. That's your difference right there between Maiden and Priest. Maiden however, were consistently METAL.
