Kick Ass LOG style multi for you to mix with amps DIs and real drums

[mickrich]

I am up to my ears in metal lately

Just finished an EP for a really tight Lamb of God type band.
They were kind enough to let me share the files for a song for you guys to mix.
Full live kit with triggers (overheads are hats left, ride right)
Ibanez bass to Warwick tubepath 5 to warwick 410 cab plus bass DI.
ESP MI NTB to Mesa MK4 to Recto cab plus DIs for all guitars.
The MK4 kills on this but re-amp if you want practice.

My mix
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2133088/ZT_MIX.mp3

Files (google docs sorry)
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B1EPqLUI5jIndjJkcGF0QWEyeFE

Looking forward to hearing some mixes!

PLEASE indicate what you used for guitars etc.
Included amps or what sim etc.
I would be really interested in what EQ you needed to do to included amp tracks and drums.

 

[lanky noob]

cheers dude! downloading now

 

[S1770]

Thanks For the Share MicKrich


S1770

 

[colonel_claypoo]

thanks as always!

 

[RaNk]

Thanks again mickrich for another set of great tracks for mixing practise. There's been some cool opportunities lately of mixing well recorded real drums around here, I like it.

My take so far:

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/19759737/ZT4MIX_RaNk_V01.mp3

 

[mickrich]

I will check the mixes out later.
PLEASE indicate what you used for guitars etc.
Included amps or what sim etc.
I would be really interested in what EQ you needed to do to included amp tracks and drums.

Thanx

 

[mickrich]

Here is my overhead eq.
There are resonances at about 280 and 900 and the kit sounds much clearer if you kill them.
Any studio I have recorded in has had a "hum" at about 900 on the overheads.
First thing I look for when mixing drums.

 

[RaNk]

Nice EQ, it seems cool since you have good highs in the overheads.

Ok some info on what I done. The more "special" things, otherwise it's alot of work to explain all the chains.

For drums I got some ideas from previous threads. Your own "Veins" thread, got me trying some compression on the overheads. Also tried some other high shelf EQ. I have the MleQ Nebula library, so I tried the high shelf from there. Right now it's hard to say for me if it's too harsh or not (tired ears). I thought it worked better than the "normal" EQs though. Also put quite some compression on the room track, inspired by JeffTD's drums on the Chrystal Mountain cover thread. For the rest I used no extra samples on the drums, only the tracks included.

On bass I used both of your tracks. The amp track slightly mixed in for some more fat sound. For the rest a cut in the lowmids (around 160 and 400Hz), Waves Bassrider, some little compression and that's about it.

For guitars I reamped through a 6505 with a Marshall 1960Lead cab. It's an oldie which I hardly used lately, but I got quite a nice result yesterday (Chrystal Mountain thread) so I used it here too. Not much effects, just some "harshness" EQ, HP@106 and LP@8kHz. And just a tad of C4 to keep the lows controlled.

I edited the vocals quite alot (aligned), I don't know if it's desired, or if it's better to not do too much. But I have to experiment some with this. Also some slight EQ and CLA-76 comps (Bluey) with about 7dB of reduction.

That's about it I guess. Any tips, do's and don'ts would be nice.

 

[mickrich]

Cool.
I will have a listen once my daughter goes to bed.
How did you find the DIs for re-amping?
I find the MI really easy to get a sound from compared to most of the EMG 81 DIs you get on this forum.
Probably due to the Duncan custom custom.
I have one in my PRS too and it's also easy to get a sound from.

 

[RaNk]

Yes these DIs are indeed easy to get warmer and nicer tones with. Got way less "harshness problems" with these than with most EMG81 DIs. But I have to say I'm a big fan of Duncan pickups anyways. I use them all the time lately. Never really cared for EMG81s (though I had them for quite awhile, were great for live use) or other active pickups.

 

[OpenWound]

Did a quick headphone mix (no mastering or premaster, nothing on the masterbus), https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1575659/ZT4MIX_openwound_headphonemix.mp3,
probably gonna change alot of stuff tomorrow .. just closed the project when i saw you wanted mixdetails, if intressed i'll check later

 

[ArthurD]

Randy Staub's snare?

 

[mickrich]

Randy Staub's snare?

No
A couple of samples layered but mainly my Tama Metalworks sample pitched up +12 in Slate Trigger.
I love the ring on this sample and pitch it to fit the track.
Here is the sample.
http://www.ultimatemetal.com/forum/andy-sneap/757239-tama-metalworks-snare-sample.html

 

[XxSicRokerxX]

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/19917325/Real22.mp3

 

[medic999]

XxSicRokerxX killed it!! Sounds awesome. did you do any drum replacement? Specifically the kick and snare?

 

[nezvers]

I was waiting when I'll be able to get my hands on this goodness.
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/12761142/NeZvers_studio/NeZvers - Kick-ass LOG style.wav
So what I did there (pictures):
On original amped rhythm guitar.
On bass guitar
On vocal
for drum that would be too much pictures , but I replaced kick with sampled LOG Wrath kick + some EQ and transient design. Rest kit from original drumkit.

 

[qwe1234]

Thanks to mickrich for the stems! I had fun mixing this.

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/21534434/Musik/Sonstiges/LOG_01_MP3.mp3

For guitars I used POD Farm (with cab-Sim off) - > LeCab 2 with Catharsis s-preshigh impulse. All guitar tracks go into one group with Waves C4 -> 1156 style compressor -> EQ. That's it for my guitars.

 

[KHE]

Thanks mickrich for the raw-tracks!!
my try:


any feedback welcome!

rythm-guitars are reamped trough a Laboga Mr. Hector / Engl Vintage 4x12" Cab / Audix I5-Mic / lots of eq
kick as a second sample blended-in (LSD-Sample)
snare has no third-partity-samples, but i've cutted a good sounding single-snare-hit from the real snare track and blended it in for more consistency. little eq / some transient-desing / paralell-comp ect.

have you recorded and edited these tracks? if yes, here is some feedback to the raw-tracks:

Vocals:
- pay way more attention to the singers performance! the doubles are super-untight, i had to edit alot of it.
- have you changed the mic during the vocal-session? some phrases sound completly different than others. (maybe tracked on two days? or the singer changed the distance to the mic?)
- the vocals have a lot of room-sound. some fiberglass-panels around the singer would help.

Drums:
- be careful during slip-editing, lots of atifacts in the overheads!
- pay more attention to the drummers performace / consistency. (snare / tom-rolls at the end)

Guitars:
- tracking / performance could be tighter
- the right-DI-track has some big level-changes during the song which affects the gain/tone/attack.

no offense, just some construcive feedback to you mixing this was a lot of fun!!

thanks again for the raw-tracks man! i really appreciate it! now i move on to your Death-Metal-track....

cheers, markus

 

[HugoRibeiroDotCom]

Damn! all these mixes!!! they sound so different.. This is all so subjective..

cheers

 

[xplanet2112]

Hi, what the name of the band and song? Just so i can put a name to a riff etc. Enjoyed mixing this and the poster who mentioned that all the mixes are different, so's mine!

k.h.e, really impressed with that snare sound!

I only used AmplitubeMetal, PodFarm and EZMix 2 for my reapms along with the original raw gtr tracks too, I reamped the Di Bass for a bass distortion to sit in there. This was mixed on headphones (late at night) and I need to sort the toms out. Agreed with poster re lots of noise but then again I am a rank amateur at this so what do i know

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/48262458/ZT4MIX135 2.mp3