LINE 6 HD147
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JeffTD
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I personally don't like them at all - no feeling to me, just sounds like a POD with a nice poweramp.
I'd much rather go with a nice tubeamp and Boogie 4x12.
That said, some guys on here have said they dig 'em well enough.
I'd much rather go with a nice tubeamp and Boogie 4x12.
That said, some guys on here have said they dig 'em well enough.
TheDude
Jocke Skog
Well, i really dig a POD with a poweramp. And if it sounds like a POD with a NICE Pwramp....
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JeffTD
Senhor Testiculo
I've tried POD's with VHT and Mesa poweramps, but it still doesn't hold up at all to a real Rectifier, 5150, VHT, Krank, etc. It still feels digital, and still has some digital overtones to it.
Kazrog
Kazrog, Inc.
I'm very happy with mine, and I've gotten it to sound indistinguishable from my 6505+, other than the lack of noise. In a recorded track, a real tube amp may win out, but live it's not worth the trouble for me.
The HD147 sounds so great though, that I am going to have to do recorded tests of it against my 6505+. In the room, subjectively, they sound basically identical for me. It's definitely not your typical POD sound...
The HD147 sounds so great though, that I am going to have to do recorded tests of it against my 6505+. In the room, subjectively, they sound basically identical for me. It's definitely not your typical POD sound...
Black neon bob
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A few weeks back, I saw a band Mnemic playing with Arsis and a few other bands. They used HD147s. I figured they we're going to sound awful, but when the guitarist turned his amp on (I was DIRECTLY in front of the cab) it sounded really fuckin good. I was expecting it to be what everyone says it sounds like, a pod with a poweramp in front of it, but it sounds alot different than that. And I own a pod... and a poweramp... Which I used to use as my main amp. The HD147 definetly sounds alot more like a high end boutique amp, and I can see it being REALLY convenient for live use, since you can have completely independent channels, with whatever effects you want on them, and not worry about a whole bunch of extra gear to get it to work.
Razorjack
Bass Behemoth
They're just reduced the price on the HD147 heads in our store so I'm really tempted to pick one up, then again I am tempted to buy half the gear in the store!!
I have heard both and the 6505+ sounds much better. You lose the tube feel and response with Line 6. Modelers get ou close but not exact. I haven't heard any modeler(and I owned a few of them now) do anything exact.
If your digging it thoug, thats great man, Rock on. I'll be playing my Tube amp.
Dan
can't comment on the HD147, but when i saw kataklysm last year they sounded awesome, just like the CD - their sound even slayed pat o'brien's mesa setup, and that's pretty difficult imho.
anyways, when i asked JF about his guitar rig for that tour, he said pod xt pro -> marshall tsl fx return.
i've been GASing for either a hd147 or an xt live ever since then....
anyways, when i asked JF about his guitar rig for that tour, he said pod xt pro -> marshall tsl fx return.
i've been GASing for either a hd147 or an xt live ever since then....
kaomao
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When I played through a HD147 I noticed that the only amp that sounded real was the mesa dual emulation, a great big bottom sound.
The rest was just thin, it was like when powertubes on a tube amps die, they ain't got no low end.
Maybe was broken, a software issue, it was really strange.
The rest was just thin, it was like when powertubes on a tube amps die, they ain't got no low end.
Maybe was broken, a software issue, it was really strange.
xtranscendedx
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Right. Kaz knows what he is talking about tho. Not saying your wrong..but you should hear his recordings
Kazrog
Kazrog, Inc.
It all depends on how you dial it and who's playing through it. I can dial in some really plastic, fake, digital sounding tones on the HD147 and make it sound really awful if I want to, also. In fact, a good portion of the presets I would describe that way, but probably at least 50% of them are decent. Screw presets, though, it's all about dialing in your own sounds on these amps!
Right now I'm using the Criminal model and it is very convincing. It sounds close enough to real tubes that I could be fooled in a blindfold test, at least in the room. I will record clips as soon as I can, I think I would have to mic the cab to do it justice, as the direct out just sounds like a POD (not bad, but not quite realistic.)
Gnash
Lefty
id like to know the amp, settings and cab you have dialed in please. i own both a hd147 and a 5150mk2,... IMO the hd doesnt even come close... but then again, ive not had much chance messing about with it in a recorded situation. if you can prove the hd147s worth, it'll stop me selling mine, because at the moment, im pretty close to that.
ive found that i nearly always need to put a lead pedal (maxon od9, zoom hyper lead etc etc) in front to get the gain and tightness to where it needs to be live as well though. the models all either really flabby and low gained or horribly over gained (no middle ground) and sizzly..
im starting an album project this month, ill ask the band if i can mess about reamping through the hd147 and the 5150, let you guys hear the similarities/differences. id like to hear your samples too though Kazrog!
Man, I got my 147 to be incredibly thick and super bass heavy, to the point that when I got my 5150 and then 6505+, I thought they sucked ass in the low end dept.
The key to me for the 147 is to keep the presence and treble not anymore than half way on most models. All of the amp models had a lot of high end and presence. The only models that seemed that seemed too dark were the Line 6 Treadplate model (based on the POD treadplate model) and the Treadplate model (based on a triple rec). Everything else could get fizzy pretty quick.
My go to patch was Line 6 Big Bottom with the bass set to around 5-6, mids 8-9 and treble and presence around 4-5. I used a Line 6 4x12 and a Mesa 4x12 in stereo, but I still used the Line 6 custom 4x12 cab emulator on the amp as well. It seemed to thicken up the sound without adding too much tonal color.
On the Big Bottom model, too, I noticed a cool little deal...If you listen as you play and turn the treble down to 0, you'll hear the high mids rise a bit and give you a cutting tone from about 3 down to 0. Then, you can use your presence control to add the high end sparkle. I used this on a few live shows and I cut through like a knife.
The key to me for the 147 is to keep the presence and treble not anymore than half way on most models. All of the amp models had a lot of high end and presence. The only models that seemed that seemed too dark were the Line 6 Treadplate model (based on the POD treadplate model) and the Treadplate model (based on a triple rec). Everything else could get fizzy pretty quick.
My go to patch was Line 6 Big Bottom with the bass set to around 5-6, mids 8-9 and treble and presence around 4-5. I used a Line 6 4x12 and a Mesa 4x12 in stereo, but I still used the Line 6 custom 4x12 cab emulator on the amp as well. It seemed to thicken up the sound without adding too much tonal color.
On the Big Bottom model, too, I noticed a cool little deal...If you listen as you play and turn the treble down to 0, you'll hear the high mids rise a bit and give you a cutting tone from about 3 down to 0. Then, you can use your presence control to add the high end sparkle. I used this on a few live shows and I cut through like a knife.
kaomao
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