Lionheart promo in the mail!!!

Karsten

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Just received our boys latest effort...Can't wait to give it a try,already in my CD player at this very second (like track 2 "Man and Machine" better than track 1 "Witchfinder General" ...that's all I can say after 5 minutes...:-)

There's also information about the "limited edition" Lionheart...seems to be a digipack with an exclusive patch.

Hope to give a short review of the CD later that day...

Best,

Karsten
 
Thought I'd put some song times next to song names.

01. Witchfinder General 04:49
02. Man and Machine 03:29
03. The Return 01:18
04. Lionheart 06:04
05. Beyond the Grave 04:56
06. Justice 04:27
07. To Live by the Sword 04:11
08. Jack Tars 00:57
09. English Man O War 04:08
10. Searching for Atlantis 05:54
11. Flying on the Edge 04:55

I'm on my 4th listen of this and i think Witchfinder General is far superior to Man and Machine.... the code for the limited edition digipack is SPV 087-69690. I'll be in the record shop ordering it soon.
 
MatRattz said:
Thought I'd put some song times next to song names.

01. Witchfinder General 04:49
02. Man and Machine 03:29
03. The Return 01:18
04. Lionheart 06:04
05. Beyond the Grave 04:56
06. Justice 04:27
07. To Live by the Sword 04:11
08. Jack Tars 00:57
09. English Man O War 04:08
10. Searching for Atlantis 05:54
11. Flying on the Edge 04:55

I'm on my 4th listen of this and i think Witchfinder General is far superior to Man and Machine.... the code for the limited edition digipack is SPV 087-69690. I'll be in the record shop ordering it soon.
Hi there,

since you apparently have more time on your hand and your english seems far superior to mine :grin: , maybe you can write some sort of review...

Best,

Karsten
 
Guys - Thanks for keeping us up to date, you lucky, lucky people!
Now, I'm sorry to be so abrupt, but...

This is not a request - This Is An ORDER!

REVIEW LIONHEART NOW!!!

Please, Please, Please!!!

By the way, I presume the couple of very short tracks are like intros to the next track, yeah?
I have to admit, I'm a little disappointed with the length of the album - less than 45 minutes. I'm pretty sure MH & KG were longer than this?
And, apologies for being a little dumb, but what is a digipack? And what is good about it?
Thanks for keeping us all up to date.
Now, just get on with that review, OK?

Cheers!
 
nightwar said:
Guys - Thanks for keeping us up to date, you lucky, lucky people!
Now, I'm sorry to be so abrupt, but...

This is not a request - This Is An ORDER!

REVIEW LIONHEART NOW!!!

Please, Please, Please!!!

By the way, I presume the couple of very short tracks are like intros to the next track, yeah?
I have to admit, I'm a little disappointed with the length of the album - less than 45 minutes. I'm pretty sure MH & KG were longer than this?
And, apologies for being a little dumb, but what is a digipack? And what is good about it?
Thanks for keeping us all up to date.
Now, just get on with that review, OK?

Cheers!
Well, a digipack is way more luxurious than the normal plastic jewel cases.Do you own the Killing Ground limited edition 2 CD set with the extra rerecorded tracks? If you do, you hold a digipack in your hands.Since my english simply isn't any better I'm unable to supply a better explanation here..can anyone with english for first language help me out here??

The way I see it there's only two very short tracks, the first is indeed an intro (track 3, "The Return") to "Lionheart". Wouldn' be surprised to hear it as opening theme on the tour, much like on the past two tours in support of Metalhead and Killing Ground that both started out with the intro and their title tracks .Jack Tars is the second short track ,almost an acoustic piece with just Biff and a single guitar.

I'm still uncertain what to think of the album..it's a lot harder than the two previous efforts which is a not a bad thing in my opinion.But for me it's apparently not really easy to really get into the record.I surely need a few more listens to do it justice.What is strange to me is that up to now I seem to like only parts of several songs leaving me disappointed with the way they end or start..

My favorites after a few listens are "Man and Machine", "Lionheart", "Beyond the Grave" all songs with killer guitar riffs and great chorus lines that may become "classic Saxon" ..tracks 2-6 are my favorite tunes on the album

Much like on Killing Ground the album gets weaker in the second half of the CD, several songs cannot compete with the first 6 or (maybe 7) songs.With "to live by the sword" the "decline" begins imho...the last 4 songs simply don't do it for me, this will surely not change much even if I give it a few more listens.As much as I like the guitar work and the drums on these tracks,the songwriting doesn't work for me here...

All in all at this point I'd rate it equal to Killing Ground but maybe not as good as Metalhead.

But as I said earlier I need to give it a fair chance and let it grow on me before I can really do it justice.
 
Well, what else can you write about a "digipack"...it's not the usual cheapo plastic jewel case that breaks for sure once it drops.The "Chronicles DVD" came also in some digipack thing...help me out fingers..:-)
 
Digipack

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Jewel Case

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"Send for the General, theres witches to burn" is the opening snarl from biff, after de-tuned guitars introduce the song in a sliding scale riff, which also makes up the chorus. Fritz Who? Jorg Michael on drums looks like he really wants this job on a permenant basis, ideal replacement. Prior to the guitar solo, there is a neat little bass riff, which when played live will probably turn into an extended solo while the rest of the band take a break. Song closes with bass riff to fade out.

Man and Machines, not sure what to make of this one. The song is about man spending spending money to break land/air/sea speed records. A Saxon guitar solo that could have come from anywhere on the "Power and Glory" album.

The Return is a synthed "Benedicine Monk" sounding sample which gradualy brings in an accoustic guitar and keyboards which build to greet Lionheart. A typically slow and heavy riff (a proper anthemic headbanger...) which also forms the chorus, breaks into a more upbeat riff. As for historical accuracies I'm not sure, but as one poster asked about how Richard the Lionheart would be portrayed here are the lyrics to the second verse:

"Your crown awaits you the chosen one,
Tell the people that freedoms come.
Light the beacons, ring the bell,
Sing you mintrels, theres tales to tell.
Send the message, across the land,
The King returns with sword in hand.
Law and order he will restore,
Evil journey will reign no more."

Solo ending with a thrashy little riff, a Saxon classic for the future.

Beyond the Grave has an electro-accoustic style opening, followed by one of the best Saxon riffs I have heard for a long time. Difficult to really discribe the overall sound of each verse, however I really like this song and its different pace throughout.

Biffs voice has been sounding at its best for the third song running on justice, really heavy addictive riff just before the solo on this one, not the best song on the album but by no means the worst.

To live by the sword, is after Witchfinder General the second heaviest track. The songs main riff is somewhat similar to Warrior off the Power and Glory album. I like the second chorus and the intense drumming which comes just before the main solo.

"Once was a Sailor, ship of the line,
Came to my duty, serving my time.
Far Far Away from you I must go,
Ne'er to return, I do not know.
If I return to tell you my tale,
I'll sing of Gunsmoke and Bloodstained Sails.
Stand by my shipmates, we will not fall,
Jolly Jack Tars, Brave men and All."

Sung softly over a medieval accoustic sounding guitar.

Another heavy riff introduces the up tempo English Man O' War. Guitar in this song has a similar sounding crunch to it that "Terminal Velocity" has.

Searching for atlantis opens with a riff fading in over ethereal sounding keyboards. A song yet to grow on me.

Finally "Flying on the Edge" has a slow heavy riff all the way through. A song about problems on tour, could quite easily be Running For The Border MkII though it builds to a really heavy end.

Metalhead it isn't, its probably overall a touch heavier and has less filler songs than that seemed to. It aint the Killing Ground either, there are no commercial "Hell Freezes over, or Coming Home" sounding tracks. Its a good job that this album is not out on tape or vynal as it would sound really disjointed with another break for turning over the tape or record.

However.... I like it. I like parts of it a lot, and I'm sure the rest will grow on me. At least an 8 out of 10.
 
Karsten - Thanks for clearing up my Digipack problem, my Friend. Showing a photo was genius in its simplicity!
Karsten & MatRattz - loads of thanks for your reviews on the album so far. There really appreciated by poor suckers like me that have to wait a little longer to buy it!
By the sounds of it, Biff has really gone for the Historical element this time. Even more than usual! Some of those lyrics are so reminisant of 'Crusader'.
It's good to know that you have not given LionHeart a glowing review immediately. Fans of many other bands would have done that, just for the sakes of it! I'm glad you are being sincere and honest about it all.
To me, the signs are looking good for the album after your comments. Most of my favourite ever albums are what we call 'Growers' - meaning that they require many listens to fully appreciate. Albums that usually take a little longer to get into are generally the albums that you end up loving and playing for ever.
Let's hope LionHeart is like that. I must admit, MetalHead and Killing Ground took more than a few listens to fully appreciate. And, in actual fact, it took until recently for me to realise just how well written and performed 'Sailing To America' is. I know - it's crazy! 'Crusader' was another song that took some time to grow on me.
For example - I bought the album 'Queen II' when I was a kid, simply to impress my new mate who was a huge Queen fan. At the time, I quite liked the usual Queen stuff (Bo Rhap, Champions etc) but I could not get into this 'Queen II' album! It was too weird for me, you know?
Anyhow, I kept at it, and began to understand it. After that, I was a huge fan of the album and, still to this day, am determined that it is the best thing that Queen has ever done.
Anyway, sorry to ramble. I'm just so looking forward to getting LionHeart!
Once again, thanks for the reviews, Guys, and please add anything new that you discover whilst listening to it.
 
just to repeat myself; i am very jealous.

i think nightwar is right about the growers thing though. Metalhead took me a few listens before i got into piss off and what goes around, but i love both tracks now. I had been hoping that lionheart would carry on and develop the heavier theme of the previous albums, and it does not sound like i will be disapointed.

I'm glad that biff's historical bent is being well served as well. This is for personal reasons for me. When i was growing up my school was pretty crap and beyond the norman conquest taught nothing of history. Bands such as saxon and maiden taught me that there was more to history than the need for arrow proof glasses.

No idea where that came from but who cares. Can anyone explain to me about this webcast thingy thats to do with the launch party. coz i have read the email a few times and i cant make any sense of the times. thanks

great reviews guys. thank you.
 
For what it's worth, I just gave Lionheart a couple of listens and I must say it is definitely far superior that Killing Ground and better than Metalhead. Most songs are faster paced and don't plod along like many on Killing Ground. I was actually very disappointed with Killing Ground (as I tend to skip half of the tracks!) so Lionheart is most welcomed! This CD reminds me of when I first got Unleash The Beast and couldn't stop listening to it. Of the 4 'new style' Saxon albums (Unleash The Beast, Metalhead, Killing Ground and Lionheart), this could very well be the best. It will require several more listens for me to see if it grows on me to outrank Unleash The Beast.

You will not be disappointed !
 
Thanks for the assesment, Saracen. I must admit, I do really like 'Killing Ground' but, but I find myself playing 'MetalHead' and 'Unleash' more frequently. I think KG is probably a more varied album but, depending on mood, I do tend to skip a couple. As a whole, I agree that the tracks on MH & Unleash are stronger.
Anyhow, even if LH is as good as KG, I will be very happy!
Pangalatic - it sounds like you went to the same school as me! We were lucky to get a textbook, let alone a teacher that would be interested in a subject!
I think films, music and books (of my own choice) have been the basis of my main education in History!
 
After about half a dozen listens now I think I can second what I said earlier...To me it's actually stronger than KG, granted, since I also use to skip half the songs off Killing Ground, but I don't see any song on LH coming close to killer tracks like "Metalhead", "Song of evil", "Travellers in time", "Killing Ground", "Cut out the disease" or "The thin red line" (just mentioned songs off the past few albums).I do like parts of many songs on LH, it could have easily been an even better album.

A good album though, it has grown on me a little over the past days....Looking forward to hear a few tunes live at one of the upcoming shows, this might again change me view on things a bit..
 
wish i had the promo

how u guys get a hold of it ?

But if i had to put the last few albums in order it would be unleash the beast then metalhead then killing ground.

hopefully lionheart will wipe out the lot of these good to hear that there are more up tempo songs on this album should work

only another month to wait yarn yarn oh well they say best things come to those who wait hopefully

ROCK ON SAXON
 
Karsten - you did mention some classic tracks there but, to be honest, it took me a fair while to realise just how good 'Travellers In Time', 'Song Of Evil' and 'Cut Out The disease were'.
The same applies to 'Conquistador' and the 'Thin Red Line' - I used to skip these tracks! I can't believe it! Now, to me, they are classics!
Even earlier than this - 'Yesterday's Gone'. I don't think I really allowed myself to absorb that track until about a year ago, and then I realised that it is such a short, classy number! It's weird how songs mature on the mind as time goes by. Let's hope there is much of this on LionHeart!