Mac Pro - Native power

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OK, pretty much finished tracking a band today, bar a few vocal bits and pieces and started working on a rough mix, just before I reamp the guitars so I can see how they should fit in...

Anyway check out this plugin count:

URS CSP x14
Drumagog x6
Line 6 Gearbox x13
Metric Halo CS x4
Space Designer x2
PSP Vintage Warmer x3
GoldVerb x1
Logic Stereo delay x1

plus some stock logic expanders, distortions, EQ's, gates etc, and I'm barely touching 25% of my CPU. This is also with the buffer size at its smallest possible value.

By the time I get round to final mixes, I can see the plugin count decreasing too as a lot of plugins are gearbox's and guitar tuners.

I'll try and get a print screen from the studio computer.

Anyway just thought I'd post this - I really can't see the need for my to go with a Duende, UAD-1 (or 2 if it ever happens), liquid mix or powercore. Also how much longer will Protools HD be reliant on DSP power?
 
This makes me really excited about upgrading... I'll probably just end up forking out the cash for a quad-core, and I will love it.
 
god they're stupidly powerful.
The cpu meter is laughing at me 'come on you pussy is that all you got?'
 
LE with never have delay-compensation as otherwise no one would buy HD. The power of native is getting truely amazing. I am using HD with a quad core and its just lightning (5gig ram):loco:
 
Intel has a new design around the corner ('Nehalem') that will blow these macpro's away. No more frontsidebus, no sluggish FBram and room for two quadcores with multithreading. That's sixteen cores on a platform designed for 'home' use... :) 6 DDR3 slots, 12 Gig ram is no problem.

16 threads on two direct-coupled >3 ghz quad-cpu's with on-die memorycontrollers feeding 12 gig of hi-speed, lo-latency Ram. SSD's for audiotracks and orchestral samplestreaming... We're finally entering overkillzone.

(For half the price of one HDcard.)
 
Mulder said:
Intel has a new design around the corner ('Nehalem') that will blow these macpro's away. No more frontsidebus, no sluggish FBram and room for two quadcores with multithreading. That's sixteen cores on a platform designed for 'home' use... :) 6 DDR3 slots, 12 Gig ram is no problem.

16 threads on two direct-coupled >3 ghz quad-cpu's with on-die memorycontrollers feeding 12 gig of hi-speed, lo-latency Ram. SSD's for audiotracks and orchestral samplestreaming... We're finally entering overkillzone.

(For half the price of one HDcard.)
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I consider what I have overkill.......that takes the piss!
 
Machinated said:
I consider what I have overkill.......that takes the piss!
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I do heavy samplingstuff and have to render tracks by default. Not a big problem (once you get used to it), but beeing able to have them running in midi all the time will have a big impact on my workflow. Imagine samplelibs like DFHS loading in a few seconds. Switching between projects is like opening a webpage. Plugins designed for mastering (Waves L3-16, Algorithmix Red) running on multiple tracks...

HD can't do that. :)

And that's the new platform for 'home'computers... :loco:

(It would make a nice Imac.)
 
alot of that power is due to logic`s efficiency. i can run 3 software instruments and over 100 plugs in a session, and I barely hit the 25% cpu with a late 2006 imac with 2 ghz and 2gb of ram. latency is almost non existent.

you guys should check out my thread on the power trio seminars touring across the country. pretty cool stuff. apparently logic pro has the highest plug in count with a macpro or macbook pro. and when paired with a apogee converter, there is only 1.5 ms of delay from analog signal to analog signal. pretty impressive!!!!
 
Cool plug-in count! Logic is so powerful, but it should be. It's a Apple product :lol: I can have almost 2 times more plug-ins using Logic on my Mac Pro than running P.T.L.E. on this same machine. RTAS architect seems really poor (CPU wise) compared to AU's on Mac.

Once did a session with East West V.O.P. // and DFHS 2.0 (in 24bit mode) running with around 30 plug-ins and this Mac Pro wasn't even huffing! :headbang:

Pro Tools HD is still the big dog .... but for how long? Mulder that new PC sounds neat. The current Mac Pros can have 4TB of storage and you can install up to 32GB of 800MHz ECC fully buffered DIMM memory. Depending on how deep yer' wallet is! Hahahahaha....

Ahhhh ..... Technology!:kickass:
 
There comes to a point with RAM though to which anything over I think 4 GB is almost useless...I think its because of the 32 bit stuff though. The story changes with 64 bit. But the processors in computers now are ridiculous. I hope I can order my Mac Pro within the next month.
 
I have a quadcore Q6600 in my built pc now, but I'm curious about your mac. How much did it cost? And sorry for the n00biness, but native power? Expand...
 
Machinated said:
OK, pretty much finished tracking a band today, bar a few vocal bits and pieces and started working on a rough mix, just before I reamp the guitars so I can see how they should fit in...

Anyway check out this plugin count:

URS CSP x14
Drumagog x6
Line 6 Gearbox x13
Metric Halo CS x4
Space Designer x2
PSP Vintage Warmer x3
GoldVerb x1
Logic Stereo delay x1

plus some stock logic expanders, distortions, EQ's, gates etc, and I'm barely touching 25% of my CPU. This is also with the buffer size at its smallest possible value.

By the time I get round to final mixes, I can see the plugin count decreasing too as a lot of plugins are gearbox's and guitar tuners.

I'll try and get a print screen from the studio computer.

Anyway just thought I'd post this - I really can't see the need for my to go with a Duende, UAD-1 (or 2 if it ever happens), liquid mix or powercore. Also how much longer will Protools HD be reliant on DSP power?
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i run a mac book pro with the 2.16 core 2 duo with logic 7 and i have the same experiences as you.

once i figured out it's better to run my projects off a fast external i haven't had any problems (knock on wood)

i've used to close to that many plus with the conv. reverbs, waves ssl, api, all that stuff, mad drumagog tracks, with like 56 57 tracks and i haven't had even hiccups. i believe once i checked it just for shits and giggles and the cpu meter was at like 35% or somethign and that was a few synths too on top of it.

macs is the shit
 
Just got myself an iMac 24" 3.06Ghz with 2GB of RAM. I'm thinking next chance I get I'll upgrade the RAM and that'll be perfect for the all the video work I do too.

I've been an Apple guy my entire life. Don't see it changing any time soon :D
 
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