Macbeth is such a pushover...
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I'm enjoying it quite a bit right now, though I really think that I might like Julius Ceaser better.
Draft Dodging Scarecrow
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I really don't care for Shakespeare very much. I personally don't think it translates.. the themes do.. but not the actual works themselves. Though there are a few I enjoy I suppose.
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gekko
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The Scottish play is also one of my favorites. In fact probably my favorite tragedy hands down. Right now I'm actually taking an acting shakespeare and we are taking an entire year to tear apart and then perform Much Ado About Nothing. Shakespeare is even more interesting on the 'atomic' level than it is at face value. I am seeing so many things I hadn't expected to get out of a light comedy. What are you reading the Scottish play for AP. For non-theater people I am referring to it as the scottish play because according to theater lore, calling it by its name is bad luck.
We're reading it for Honors English, but I've been rather interested in Shakespeare for a while, so reading it was inevitable. I really prefer his 154 sonnets to most of his work, as they potray such depths of emotion, but the tragedies are quite up to par.
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a)why?
b)English teachers don't know jack shit. All they do is spew out what they were taught without ever giving a moments consideration as to whether what they are saying makes any sense to them. As a result they rarely understand what the hell they are talking about. Also, they are rarely willing to listen to a point of view that is *gasp* contrary to what they know. Finally, they are convinced everything means something. I am of the opinion that sometimes in literature an author says the night is dark because the night is dark and not because he wants to convey some very important hidden meaning. Description is necessary sometimes.
b)English teachers don't know jack shit. All they do is spew out what they were taught without ever giving a moments consideration as to whether what they are saying makes any sense to them. As a result they rarely understand what the hell they are talking about. Also, they are rarely willing to listen to a point of view that is *gasp* contrary to what they know. Finally, they are convinced everything means something. I am of the opinion that sometimes in literature an author says the night is dark because the night is dark and not because he wants to convey some very important hidden meaning. Description is necessary sometimes.
Draft Dodging Scarecrow
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Our English teacher is actually quite bold and teaches what she feels the pieces represent and why they are important to us in todays context (for the most part).
I think I might major in English, so it's the one class of the day that I really truly enjoy attending (besides band).
I think I might major in English, so it's the one class of the day that I really truly enjoy attending (besides band).
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the real washington sniper said:
Might I suggest Much Ado About Nothing in terms of the Comedies. I really like Antony and Cleopatra, Macbeth, Othello, Merchant of Venice, of the Histories I really like the two parts of Richard IV. I don't know how many of these you've read, but if you haven't all are good places to go.
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Astral Poetry said:
That's great, I'm glad you have one of the exceptions. If you are really interested in Shakespeare might I suggest finding a class in the theater department that focuses on him. Looking at his work from a theatrical perspective it is a very different experience and can be quite interesting. sorry I am getting worked up about this. I am very passionate about theater and I find Shakespeare to be particularly gratifying.
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Well, in defence, I should say that most English teachers have spent an awful lot of years studying English literature and, regardless of how smart or dumb they are as people, probably know a lot more about that than someone who didn't.
And I think maybe 99% of English teachers are trying to get you to think and learn, not evangelize our own personal interpretations of a text. I mean, who cares if you agree with me that Invitation is a Gnostic novel or not? The important part is whether you present your alternative case well and, thus, have understood/learned it.
It doesn't matter if the author actually meant that the night was dark or not. The reason you're reading that text in class is because it's well-suited to helping you develop your perceptual and interpretive skills.
And I think maybe 99% of English teachers are trying to get you to think and learn, not evangelize our own personal interpretations of a text. I mean, who cares if you agree with me that Invitation is a Gnostic novel or not? The important part is whether you present your alternative case well and, thus, have understood/learned it.
It doesn't matter if the author actually meant that the night was dark or not. The reason you're reading that text in class is because it's well-suited to helping you develop your perceptual and interpretive skills.
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I suppose I am projecting bad experiences with a number of english teachers I have had through the years, so perhaps my rather disgruntled stance is not completely founded. I do however feel that sometimes they do over analyze and complicate issues. Also, I have learned since posting my above message that xfer is becoming or already is an English teacher. Thus I find I must apologize. sorry man, no offense intended to you or your desired profession as a whole. I expect you'll make people have a better feeling about their english teachers than I do.
