Marijuana - Acceptable or Unacceptable?

Is the use of Marijuana as a recreational drug acceptable or not?

  • Yes, I support the use of recreational marijuana.

    Votes: 25 71.4%
  • No, I do not support the use of recreational marijuana.

    Votes: 8 22.9%
  • I need more information to make a deicision.

    Votes: 2 5.7%

  • Total voters
    35

Sonnenritter

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Personally, I advocate the decriminalization and eventual legalization of marijuana worldwide. Being of this mindset, it interests me to know the thoughts and feelings of communities (as a whole) about the plant. In less liberal communities, such as the RPG community, it seems as though misinformation and general contempt runs abound. In light of this, I've been curious as to how other social cultures react to the plant. I would like to take the information that I aquire from the various groups and use it for an essay I plan to compose. All too often the strong opposition use scientifically proven incorrect studies and blatant lies to convince others to join their war on nature, so what I ask of the metal community is to take the poll as well as post information that you believe to be true about marijuana. If you would rather not make the post public, simply send me a PM. Thanks for your time. :Spin:
 
It is ridiculous that weed is illegal. It is less damaging to the health than alcohol is. I 100% support the decriminalization of marijuana, though I don't smoke it myself anymore. I think that most metalheads would support the legalization of weed, but not most hardcore kids.
 
i was led to believe that "weed" blocks certain receptors of the brain which may stay permanetly blocked. frankly i dont care if people smoke it, i just dont want to be near the stuff.

and when my kids come into the world, and if they try it - i am going to beat their asses!
 
Against. The number of users would increase tenfold, which means I have to worry about not only dodging the drunks and flat out bad drivers on the road, but now hundreds of people with the reaction time of a sloth.

In my opinion there are already way too many fucked up people on this planet, and I wouldn't support legalizing a way to make them even more fucked up. Sure, plenty of people would use it responsibly, like responsible alchohol drinkers, but the vast majority wouldn't.

Basically the bottom line is anything that makes my every day life even more dangerous (or the lives of my friends) doesn't sit well with me.
 
TB666 said:
Burn it all.
Yes, give it to me. I'll burn it all. ;)

Also, TB. When you come up with a logical, intelligent reason for not smoking marijuana, come back and try again. I don't buy this "I'm mentally superior because I don't do drugs," bullshit.
 
i have nothing aginst pot or People that smoke it :) i used to myself almost everyday. but not my thing anymore. seems i turn into a bitch after smoking it :lol: and it is a harmless drug and fun so..
 
I find it acceptable as a recreational drug, but I think with legalization, there will have to be programs opened for those with problems. Like a "Potheads anonymous" or something. When people start smoking it heavily, and daily, it's just as bad as alcoholism.
 
IMO if you want to smoke it, you should be able to. I don't tell people what they should and shouldn't do. Pot will destroy your life if you let it, just like anything else.
If you have an addictive nature, then you can become addicted to anything.
 
BasilisK 3 7 77 said:
Against. A/B)The number of users would increase tenfold, which means I have to worry about not only dodging the drunks and flat out bad drivers on the road, but now hundreds of people with the reaction time of a sloth.

C) In my opinion there are already way too many fucked up people on this planet, and I wouldn't support legalizing a way to make them even more fucked up. Sure, plenty of people would use it responsibly, like responsible alchohol drinkers, but the vast majority wouldn't.

D) Basically the bottom line is anything that makes my every day life even more dangerous (or the lives of my friends) doesn't sit well with me.
[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]A) "The Law Revision Commission has examined laws from other states that have reduced penalties for small amounts of marijuana and the impact of those laws in those states. ... Studies of [those] states found (1) expenses for arrest and prosecution of marijuana possession offenses were significantly reduced, (2) any increase in the use of marijuana in those states was less than increased use in those states that did not decrease their penalties and the largest proportionate increase occurred in those states with the most severe penalties, and (3) reducing the penalties for marijuana has virtually no effect on either choice or frequency of the use of alcohol or illegal 'harder' drugs such as cocaine."
- Connecticut Law Review Commission. 1997. Drug Policy in Connecticut and Strategy Options: Report to the Judiciary Committee of the Connecticut General Assembly. State Capitol: Hartford.
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B) "A 2002 review of seven separate studies involving 7,934 drivers reported, “Crash culpability studies have failed to demonstrate that drivers with cannabinoids in the blood are significantly more likely than drug-free drivers to be culpable in road crashes.” This result is likely because subject under the influence of marijuana are aware of their impairment and compensate for it accordingly, such as by slowing down and by focusing their attention when they know a response will be required. This reaction is just the opposite of that exhibited by drivers under the influence of alcohol, who tend to drive in a more risky manner proportional to their intoxication."

C) With that mindset, certain bands use metal to further sexual assault, advocation of murder, etc. Therefore, metal should be prohibited because it possesses the potential to create harm. Although many bands do not indulge in such behaviour, the possibility exists for abuse. On that notion alone, metal should be outlawed.

D) Then I suggest you and your friends crawl into a box and die. Everything presents an added danger to your already dangerous life. Marijuana is not going to increase you or your friends' chances of dying any more than walking outside or drinking a glass of water.
 
Well, I used to smoke like a lot with a bunch of friends growing up, and I got out of it, but I saw all my friends get addicted to it, and now they're still smoking it and their lives have gone to fucking shit, so I oppose. I think it will make all countries lazier, slower, and stupider than ever. It's very easy to enjoy many things in life without drugs, sure it's a whole lot of fun (used to do it a lot myself), but shit guys, the fun has to end sometime. Potheads never grow up, sure, they'll get a job and work, but there is no long term development in a person who does drugs or alcohol 24/7.
 
Sonnenritter said:
[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]A) "The Law Revision Commission has examined laws from other states that have reduced penalties for small amounts of marijuana and the impact of those laws in those states. ... Studies of [those] states found (1) expenses for arrest and prosecution of marijuana possession offenses were significantly reduced, (2) any increase in the use of marijuana in those states was less than increased use in those states that did not decrease their penalties and the largest proportionate increase occurred in those states with the most severe penalties, and (3) reducing the penalties for marijuana has virtually no effect on either choice or frequency of the use of alcohol or illegal 'harder' drugs such as cocaine."
- Connecticut Law Review Commission. 1997. Drug Policy in Connecticut and Strategy Options: Report to the Judiciary Committee of the Connecticut General Assembly. State Capitol: Hartford.
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B) "A 2002 review of seven separate studies involving 7,934 drivers reported, “Crash culpability studies have failed to demonstrate that drivers with cannabinoids in the blood are significantly more likely than drug-free drivers to be culpable in road crashes.” This result is likely because subject under the influence of marijuana are aware of their impairment and compensate for it accordingly, such as by slowing down and by focusing their attention when they know a response will be required. This reaction is just the opposite of that exhibited by drivers under the influence of alcohol, who tend to drive in a more risky manner proportional to their intoxication."

C) With that mindset, certain bands use metal to further sexual assault, advocation of murder, etc. Therefore, metal should be prohibited because it possesses the potential to create harm. Although many bands do not indulge in such behaviour, the possibility exists for abuse. On that notion alone, metal should be outlawed.

D) Then I suggest you and your friends crawl into a box and die. Everything presents an added danger to your already dangerous life. Marijuana is not going to increase you or your friends' chances of dying any more than walking outside or drinking a glass of water.
It's a point-of-view question, so both of our answers are strictly opinion. I've seen first-hand more cases than I'd like of marijuana destroying a person (or death), which you obviously haven't, or perhaps you just don't give a shit about your friends.

Reply to C): You can throw that metaphor right back to wherever the hell you got it from. What people say (metal lyrics) and what people do (marijuana) are to completely different things.

Reply to D), first sentence: All I have to say is fuck you. That's a hell of a thing to say to someone you don't know and know nothing about, or what their experiences have been with marijuana. To the rest of D): That can go back to the "swing and a miss" pile from C). If you serously think that marijuana is no more dangerous than "a glass of water" or "walking outside", then you're obviously an avid user and are having trouble thinking clearly throught the bong resin caked inside your head.


Well, I had hoped to come back to UM and just have fun posting and meeting people, but there's always somebody who's going to attack you without being provoked and throw it into a fight. Pretty sad. If there's one thing I can't stand, it's people who think their opinions are fact, and will argue their point by way of brainless flaming/insults, or trying to get into an "IQ" war and try and belittle the other persons intellegence to make themselves feel smarter.

I'm done with this thread. It's impossible for a group to give political opinions without a fight. Feel free to reply to this if you want with more insults, flaming, whatever you want. You won't be getting a reply, because it's plainly obvious by your first post alone that we're not going to come to any type of understanding on this subject, and firing back and forth is just going to be a waste of time. You cut-and-paste statistics for your argument (which is fine), I use personal experiences (equally fine).

I apoligize to the rest of the folks who have to have our petty disagreement right in their face when they come to discuss this, and I'm sorry the whole incident had to happen. I didn't expect a reply like that to my simple answer. This whole thing just sucks...



EDIT: I just realized that you're the one who STARTED THIS THREAD ASKING PEOPLE FOR THEIR OPINIONS FOR YOUR RESEARCH.... The fucking irony... Did you really ask for opinions for some type of research, or did you just want to start an argument in the first place? (note: Don't answer that, I really don't care, just "thinking out loud", so to speak...)