MATT BARLOW REJOINED ICED EARTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Doomsday zach that was some bullshit you just wrote.....Owens fits perfectly on Framing Armageddon..And the music is Jon's best since Dark Saga.

And a good portion of it is my own opinion. However, since (as Phanto pointed out) most people would agree with my assessment, it makes sense to recommend the most enjoyed stuff to a new potential fan.

Also, Razoredge is gonna listen and form his own opinions.

Finally, i couldn't listen to more than the first 3 songs on Framing Armageddon (including that bullshit intro) because it sucked, was boring, etc. etc.
 
I think their best album is Horror Show, there are lots of catchy tracks on that album. The Phanton Opera Ghost is pure win.
That was my first iced earth album, so it still holds a very special place in my heart. Really, really damned good album.
The other Barlow albums all have their good tracks though. It's a pity Horrow Show came out after Alive in Athens. Would have been awesome to hear some of those songs live.
Doh! I forgot to mention ALIVE IN ATHENS, an absolutely fantastic place to start for a new fan (which is usually quite the opposite). The 3 disc set contains some of the best Iced Earth material up to that point, the production is AMAZING and the performance is tight as hell (i'm sure there was some post-show studio magic performed, but that's of no matter to me). Great, great album.
 
jon's best writing was on Demons & Wizards self title album. no questions asked. and night of the stormrider. the something wicked trilogy is also among them.
 
This is crazy...

I like Matt, yet I feel very sorry and confused for both Pyramaze and Tim Owens? The new Pyramaze hasn't even come out yet and Matt has already decided to go back to IE? Also, this on the whim decision made by Jon probably came as a very quick hit to Tim. I guess it won't hurt Tim too much since he at least still has Beyond Fear. Also, Matt was singing with Pyramaze mainly because he wanted to sorta come back on the scene without having to sacrifice his police job. Since Pyramaze don't really tour and Matt felt they were a great under-appreciated band he chose them. But in this announcement Jon talks about getting into the studeio with Matt for the second part of Something Wicked and how they are going to tour and that it will be the best era in Iced Earth history and blah blah blah. So does this mean Matt is no longer a police officer? Also, it mentions Matt is having another child. Matt joined the force to provide for his family because music alone wasn't cutting it for him, now that he is having another child he is rejoining IE and doing all these things with the band that obviously shows he won't be working as a police officer? Just weird speculations I am having...

I think Glorious Burden would have been horrible even if Matt was the vocalist; however, I actually sorta like Framing Armageddon. It is definately different for an IE album just like GB was yet it is not nearly as boring to me. I can understand why people do not like Framing Armegeddon but I still somewhat enjoy it. I think it would be awesome with Matt's vox and think that a lot of people will end up liking it if it was re-recorded with Matt. This is because I think the reason a lot of people don't like it (not all) is because they still can't get past the non-Matt vocals of IE. I think the song "Framing Armageddon" would be an IE favorite if it had Matt on vocals.

Lastly, I can't help but laugh at Jon everytime something in IE changes. This is because no matter what happens he tries telling everyone how the band will be "better", at its "best", or "stronger than ever!". Remember Jon stating that Tim was the voice of IE he had been looking for since the beginning and how with his voice it was the way IE "should" sound? Now he is stating that Matt's voice will bring back the "true" sound of IE or whatever?

Don't get me wrong, even though I look up to Tim as a good vocalist I am definately glad Matt has rejoined. This is all just me speculating on the matter. Maybe this U.S. metal band can kick it back up into high gear again! I am also still looking forward to hearing Matt on the new Pyramaze album and hope nothing has changed with it with this news.
 
yeah...I just went to the Pyramaze forum and it seems that Matt is supposedly still in the band; however, I am going to predict that he will sing on their new album and after that probably leave. Someone on there also mentioned that Matt is soon going to release a press statement on this big news. It will probably clear up all the confusion pertaining to the two bands and his day job and such.
 
I would like to hear from Tim. I love Framing Armagedden. It is a great album, in my opinion. I was a IE fan before Tim joined, but at the same time, a fan of Tim Owens. So, I was thrilled when he joined IE. I, too, remember saying that Tim was the "voice" that Jon envisioned when he wrote IE songs. Whatever. Tim has Beyond Fear, and the new Winter's Bane(if they find a label, hint hint SPV). Damn it, I wanted to see Tim sing with IE live again. :mad:
 
haha, i knew i'd see iced dog post after reasing this new!
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Nice to hear that Matt is still on with Pyramaze...that won't be a problem schedule-wise as they don't tour much...not sure about how his job issues will factor in...seems like IE will want to tour quite a bit in the coming years (if Jon's back holds up). Regardless, one of my fave vocalists is singing for two of my fave bands...holy fuckin win!

As for Tim, I'm wondering if perhaps he was thinking of leaving anyway...he's got his own thing in Beyond Fear (which is some quality stuff...could use some refinement, but that'll come)...and now I hear he's doing something with his old band Winter's Bane. I imagine it was an amiable/mutual split for both sides, but we'll see.
 
That was my first iced earth album, so it still holds a very special place in my heart. Really, really damned good album.

I think Dark Saga was my first. A Question of Heaven is definately awesome :) But the thing I like about Horrow Show is that the whole album is filled with awesome songs, it's not just one or two tracks.

Doh! I forgot to mention ALIVE IN ATHENS, an absolutely fantastic place to start for a new fan (which is usually quite the opposite). The 3 disc set contains some of the best Iced Earth material up to that point, the production is AMAZING and the performance is tight as hell (i'm sure there was some post-show studio magic performed, but that's of no matter to me). Great, great album.

Alive in Athens is awesome :) But it really shows the difference between Barlow & Gene Adams (first album). Just listen to the two different singers on "When The Night Falls".
 
the thing I like about Horrow Show is that the whole album is filled with awesome songs, it's not just one or two tracks.

I agree. Every song on that album (perhaps minus Ghost of Freedom - a stereotypical Iced Earth ballad) has its own unique feel to it. I really think it is their most diverse and enjoyable work to date. Plus, you know, it had Barlow.
 
i agree with most of what zach said. I don't think framing armageddon is all bad, i think a few songs like the clouding and domino decree are pretty good, but its not great. And they clearly don't know how to write for owens' voice. owens is too thin in the middle register and lacks intensity. thats why i think the clouding is the best song on the album, its more ballad which fits better for owens.

anyways, its great knews to hear barlow returning, he's not the greatest singer but he's pretty damn sweet, and he knows what to do with what he can do.
 
When I first got into IE, Horror Show was actually my least fave at the time (save Phantom Opera Ghost, loved that immensely), but over time I grew to really like it. I guess I'm a fanboy though, because Shaffer has yet to do an album that has disappointed me, including Demons & Wizards
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