Metal pride.

[xfer]

i think that even non-extreme pride is an irrational emotion, even when people try to attach rationality to it. a lot of times rationality is just used to justify allowing yourself to feel this irrational emotion of "I'm better because I'm me".

like, if someone wants to say "The US is a better country than Syria because we respect human rights to a much greater degree", for example, okay. but if they say "The US is a better country than Syria because we're the USA! USA! USA! AMERICA RULES!", well, shut up. but a lot of times people will use the rational reason ("we respect human rights to a much greater degree") to justify allowing themselves to feel, inside, this swelling "USA! USA! USA!" irrational pride.

 

[Baliset]

i've never claimed to be better than anybody because of who i am although i can see how some people might take that route with their version of "pride."

i am just proud of where i came from musically. there's nothing wrong or irrational about that.

 

[xfer]

yeeaahhh i think i was trying to criticize a basic human emotion more than any one person such as you, greg. i think pride of any sort is inseparable from all the stuff i mentioned. i also think anger is inherently shitty, for example.

 

[xfer]

 

[deadair]

i see mexicans that have "brown pride" on their cars... is that the same?

 

[Baliset]

i don't think you can take pride as being inseperable from assholes. there are different levels. same with anger. i mean it is inherently shitty but there are differences between me being angry because i got screwed by my bank and someone getting angry at someone on the road and driving them off the road in a rage.

 

[xfer]

well, saying "pride (or anger) is inseparable from assholes" would pretty much say that every single human being on the planet is an asshole.

i'd rather look at it from a less black-and-white angle. most or all of us have moments of assholery. some people more than others, to the extent that i think there is an undefined point at which someone actually becomes "an asshole".

and yeah, pride (and anger) can be twisted into good things from time to time, but they come from a fundamentally bad place in the human soul. love and kindness can be twisted into bad things, but they come from a fundamentally good place.

p.s. i love the insult "asshole" and i pity the russians for not having asshole-related swear words

 

[Draft Dodging Scarecrow]

The only reason I would have pride for texas is if it broke away from the united states de america.

 

[lizard]

Texas could seceed and could then have Emperor George Bush. That way the rest of us would be rid of them both

 

[Baliset]

well, saying "pride (or anger) is inseparable from assholes" would pretty much say that every single human being on the planet is an asshole.

i'd rather look at it from a less black-and-white angle. most or all of us have moments of assholery. some people more than others, to the extent that i think there is an undefined point at which someone actually becomes "an asshole".

and yeah, pride (and anger) can be twisted into good things from time to time, but they come from a fundamentally bad place in the human soul. love and kindness can be twisted into bad things, but they come from a fundamentally good place.

p.s. i love the insult "asshole" and i pity the russians for not having asshole-related swear words

i definitely agree with you here.

 

[xfer]

see lizard, the problem is, texas has nuclear weapons. lots of them. and you know the Emperor would not hesitate to use them on the "latte-drinking, sushi-eating, Volvo-driving, New-York-Times-reading, Hollywood-loving, left-wing freak shows" in the Northeast.

 

[AndICried]

i just have a problem with the emotion of "pride" in general. it causes almost ALL of the trouble in this world, and it's totally unnecessary in most cases, when just "lack of shame" would do.

pride is the impetus behind nationalism, sports fandom, most wars, barfights, and much more.

Totally agree. The term pride is just a bit of a for me.

 

[Draft Dodging Scarecrow]

Texas could seceed and could then have Emperor George Bush. That way the rest of us would be rid of them both

Bush would not be allowed in seceeded texas.

 

[mindspell]

Hey! Do you know what you are?
You're an asshole!
An ASSHOLE!

Some of you might not agree
'Cause you probably likes a lot of misery
But think a while and you will see...
Broken hearts are for assholes
Broken hearts are for assholes
Are you an asshole?
Broken hearts are for assholes
Are you an asshole too?
Whatcha gonna do, 'cause you're an asshole.. .

Maybe you think you're a lonely guy
Maybe you think you're too tough to cry
So you went to The Grape,
Just to give it a try

And Dagmar
Without a doubt, the ugliest sonofabitch I ever saw in my life
Was his name...
One Two Three Four!
The whiskers sticking out from underneath of his
Pancake make-up
And yet he was a beautiful lady
Nearly drove you insane
Let's talk about Leather: LEATHERRRRRR
And so you kissed a little sailor
Òåõ Abel, starring in the latest Shepperton Production:
Who had just blew in from Spain
"Sir Richard Pump-A-Loaf"
You sniffed the reeking buns of Angel
The story of a demented bread-boffer
And acted like it was cocaine
Cucumber pud annexed to a fine whole-wheat loaf
You were dazzled by the exciting new costume of Ko-Ko
Then on Tuesday night,
Ceasar's back in town
In a way you can't explain
Facing off in a no-holds-barred tag team grudge match With Kona.. .
And so you worked the wall with Michael
Three-hundred-seventy-nine pounds of Samoan dynamite
Which gave your back an awful strain
Volcanic Hell
But you came back on Sunday for the gong show
Next Thursday, teen town's finest
But you forgot what I was sayin'
'Cause you're an asshole,
You're an asshole
That's right
You're an asshole, you're an asshole
Yes, yes
You're an asshole, you're an asshole
That's right
You're an asshole, you're an asshole

Now you been to The Grape 'n' you been to
The Chest 'N' now I think you know what you are: you're an asshole
You say you can't live with what you've been through
Well, ladies you can be an asshole too
You might pretend you ain't got one on the bottom of you
But don't fool yerself girl
It's lookin' at you
Don't fool yerself girl
It's winkin'at you
Don't fool yerself girl
It's blinkin' at you
That's why I say
I'm gonna ram it, ram it, ram it
Ram it up yer poop chute
Corn hole
Ram it, ram it, ram it
Ram it up yer poop chute
Fist fuck
Ram it, ram it, ram it
Ram it up yer poop chute
Wrist-watch: Crisco
Ram it, ram it, ram it
Ram it up yer poop chute
Pud!
Don't fool yerself, girl,
It's goin' right up yer poop chute
Don't fool yerself, girl,
It's goin' right up yer poop chute
(etc., repeats)
Aw, I knew you'd be surprised

 

[lizard]

but Bush considers himself a swaggering Texas rancher! he cuts brush! he wears them conestoga hats or what ever they're called!


xfer, if texas became its own nation (again), the only state to ever have held that status before statehood, we yankees would be required to CRUSH and MAIM and REND their asses. Don't forget, the last time it happened, it took the american south 100 years to recover.

 

[xfer]

Bush would not be allowed in seceeded texas.

you're kidding. every texan i've ever met except one has sucked george w. bush's dick all the way to the oilfield/bank.

 

[Draft Dodging Scarecrow]

No, I hate Bush and since it was my idea to seceed from the union, he doesn't get to come to Texas.

And as for the thing about it being the north's duty to CRUSH and MAIM and REND Texas if it ever seceeded, I'm fairly certain that they wouldn't do that "just because."

 

[lizard]

nah, it was a joke. I would just as soon say sayonara, texas, because it takes entirely too long to drive across.

 

[xfer]

the union must hold!

 

[Draft Dodging Scarecrow]

THE UNION WILL FALL.....unless we do a lot of drugs.