Metallica causes death:

[monstershredder0003]

And Bryan, your logic doesn't really apply... UFC fighters are a completely different critter. (An ex of mine happens to do no-holds-barred fighting, so I've seen plenty of UFC, etc. fights.) Besides, just because you've not seen something happen doesn't make it impossible. This is a freak occurrence, and almost certainly related to the beating the guy got. The proportion of your response as well is a bit extreme, I think.

Shaye

I'm gonna have to agree with bryan,when you see a guy get knocked out in the UFC,most of the time it is a hook to the jaw.the jaw slides out of place and hits a nerve...knocking you out.and those guys have alot more power than some little 15-16 year old guys,and you never hear about somebody being killed in the UFC from being hit in the chin or jaw.

 

[nailz]

Keep in mind UFC fighters are trained to fight. Their JOB is to know how to take a punch. They're not drunken morons. I don't necessarily believe a punch to the jaw would've caused a busted artery either, but comparing this guy getting smacked around with professional fighters seems kind of out of place

Shaye: Please remember these are 15 year old kids who were probably scared out of their wits when this guy grabbed their friend. They're not old enough to understand the gravity of the situation when an adult gets his hands on them. Responsibility lies with them, sure, but you don't seem to be giving them any ley-way on the issue. I'm not one to make excuses, but they acted as any 15 year old would have.

 

[monstershredder0003]

yea,i know but i just think its out of place to say that he was killed like that.

 

[Kenso]

i think alot of peoples views would be different if it wasnt over metallica haha

the dude grabbed the kid, there is a right to self defense....

i am not 15, but if some guy grabbed my friend with an intent to hit or harm him, i would no doubt deck his ass, regardless of age.

now there certainly is a stopping point to hitting him, but 5 punches from some 15 year olds, probably didnt kill him, or shouldnt have, the guy was 35 years old, which is still a very healthy age.


just my thoughts

 

[Big Al 2112]

I say put the kids away. They were 100% responsible for what happened. If they didn't want to end up in that situation they should have removed themselves from the presence of the man. But that is not what happened. If you actually read the article you would know that the kids provoked the guy. One of them was unbuttoning his pants and asked told the guy to suck his d*ck. What do they expect the drunk guy to do. They were trying to get a response out of him. I have no sympathy for them at all. You play with fire and you will get burned.

 

[monstershredder0003]

I say put the kids away. They were 100% responsible for what happened. If they didn't want to end up in that situation they should have removed themselves from the presence of the man. But that is not what happened. If you actually read the article you would know that the kids provoked the guy. One of them was unbuttoning his pants and asked told the guy to suck his d*ck. What do they expect the drunk guy to do. They were trying to get a response out of him. I have no sympathy for them at all. You play with fire and you will get burned.

unless we were reading something else,i thought the older guy was the one that unbuttened his pants and grabbed the 15 year old.

 

[lady_space]

yea,i know but i just think its out of place to say that he was killed like that.

I think I am not a medical professional, so it's not really within my realm of expertise. The body works in mysterious ways, but it certainly sounds plausible to me. the brain gets knocked around in the skull, why isn't it reasonable to think a vessell in the brain could be damaged?

And no, I'm not cutting the kids any slack. I think everyone involved acted like an idiot. Period. I think kicking someone's ass is rarely, if ever, the answer. I'd be far more pissed at some asshole telling me to suck his dick than at someone grabbing me, to be honest.

So rhetorical question: you guys who would pummel some guy who grabbed your friend, how would you react to some snot-nosed kid telling you to perform fellatio on him?

Shaye

 

[lady_space]

unless we were reading something else,i thought the older guy was the one that unbuttened his pants and grabbed the 15 year old.

"one of the teens he ridiculed undid his belt and a top button in an invitation to perform a sex act on him"

 

[monstershredder0003]

"one of the teens he ridiculed undid his belt and a top button in an invitation to perform a sex act on him"

my bad..i guess i was reading it to fast

 

[rrhoadsfan1]

I say Metallica is Killing me to, they so suck.. hehehe.. But Guy should have minded his own business... that would have solved the whole problem before it even happend.. my 2cents..

 

[No-Mercy]

fight fire with fire isnt meant to be takin literally, those kids are fuckin morons. and i would love to be able to tell them off the next time someone associates me or my friends with that situation as people do often...

 

[Purveyor Of Evil]

They were ALL fucking ding-a-lings!

 

[trx2k05]

UNBELIEVEABLE!!!

However, he was right, Metallica does suck!!

 

[SharkBlack]

Self Defense. Case over...

 

[caex]

Self Defense. Case over...

How exactly is it self-defense? By what I can tell, the one grabbed didn't do anything.

 

[nailz]

Probably because he was .... you know.. 15 and grabbed. Scared shitless no doubt.

If a 15 year old kid told me to blow him, I'd tell him to fuck off and be done with it. There's no need to ever put your hands on someone. However, I was always taught: Never start a fight, but by all means, make sure you're the one who finishes it.